Please critique recipe: Grovestand IPA

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  1. smchenry75

    smchenry75 Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2010 Indiana

    Batch Size (fermenter): 6.30 gal
    Estimated OG: 1.059 SG
    Estimated Color: 7.0 SRM
    Estimated IBU: 72.8 IBUs
    Brewhouse Efficiency: 65.00 %
    Est Mash Efficiency: 70.2 %
    Boil Time: 60 Minutes

    Ingredients:
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    Amt Name Type # %/IBU
    12 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 76.2 %
    3 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 2 19.0 %
    12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.8 %
    0.75 oz Amarillo Gold [8.70 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 4 10.8 IBUs
    0.75 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 5 16.6 IBUs
    0.75 oz Summit [14.20 %] - Boil 20.0 min Hop 6 17.6 IBUs
    0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.70 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 7 4.3 IBUs
    0.50 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 6.6 IBUs
    0.50 oz Summit [14.20 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 7.0 IBUs
    0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 2.4 IBUs
    0.50 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 11 3.6 IBUs
    0.50 oz Summit [14.20 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 12 3.9 IBUs
    0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.70 %] - Aroma Steep 15. Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
    0.50 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Aroma Steep 15.0 min Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
    0.50 oz Summit [14.20 %] - Aroma Steep 15.0 min Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
    1.0 pkg American Ale II (Wyeast Labs #1272) [124 Yeast 16 -
    0.50 oz Amarillo Gold [8.70 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Day Hop 17 0.0 IBUs
    0.50 oz Citra [13.40 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 18 0.0 IBUs
    0.50 oz Summit [14.20 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days Hop 19 0.0 IBUs


    Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
    Total Grain Weight: 15 lbs 12.0 oz
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    Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
    Mash In Add 19.69 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F 60 min

    Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (0.79gal, 3.82gal) of 168.0 F water
    Notes:
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    #1 smchenry75, May 11, 2013
  2. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I generally get rid of all that extraneous information that beersmith gives you when I post a recipe. Easier to read recipes that way. Summarize the IBUs and total amounts of hops, no need to specify the exact IBU contribution of every single small addition. What is your total hops? I'm too lazy to add all that up. However, pointless nitpicking aside, I think it looks pretty good. Appears to be a rather heavily hop-bursted IPA. Should have plenty of flavor and aroma, that's for sure. That's a lot of citra.

    That seems like a low OG for 15.75 pounds of grain. I'm in the lower end of DIPA territory with that much grain. For a 1.060-ish beer I generally use around 12 lbs.
     
    #2 AlCaponeJunior, May 11, 2013
  3. mountsnow1010

    mountsnow1010 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2009 Vermont

    I like the grain bill. I am assuming you know that you like summit hops, as a lot of people do not like the oniony characteristic. Interesting combo too, I am not sure I have ever seen citra Amarillo gold and summit, but sounds nice! If it were me I would skip the summit dh and increase the Amarillo and citra dh, and I'd extend the dh to seven days , but again, that's just me.
     
    #3 mountsnow1010, May 11, 2013
  4. smchenry75

    smchenry75 Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2010 Indiana

    I haven't used Summit before. I'm really torn on these. I've heard quite a few reference the oniony characteristic while I've heard other say that they didn't experience that... that they got almost all citrus notes which is why I was going to pair them with the Citra and Amarillo. Rather than take the risk, Now I do think I'm going to eliminate the Summit altogether and simply up the Citra and Amarillo. thanks for the feedback!
     
    #4 smchenry75, May 14, 2013
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  5. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    More dry and aroma hops, IMHO.
     
    #5 jmich24, May 14, 2013
  6. MrGreengenes2

    MrGreengenes2 Initiate (0) Aug 9, 2008 Indiana

    Agreed, I usually use 3-4 oz for WP and 3-4 oz for DH in my serious IPAs. This is by no means the rule but if you like them super resiny and aromatic like those highly rated on this site you need a lot of late addition hops.
     
    #6 MrGreengenes2, May 14, 2013
  7. smchenry75

    smchenry75 Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2010 Indiana

    I'm not looking to make a hop bomb necessarily... really want something refreshing and citrusy for the approaching summer days. also, looking to explore citra hops but didn't want to do a SMASH beer so hopefully combining them with the Amarillo will add a bit more complexity. I think I'll go with 1.5 oz of each (citra and Amarillo) in the WP and then 1.5 of each in the dry hop. tempted to throw cascade into the mix but might wait until next time.
     
    #7 smchenry75, May 15, 2013
  8. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    If you want refreshing, keep it lighter on the ABV, and make sure you finish it dry. I'd toss in a little acid malt myself if I'm going for something more citrusy and slightly tart.

    If your not looking to make a hop bomb, then simplify your hop schedule. It looks like an apparent mess to me, but it could work for you.

    I'd hit it with a FWH of something you like, and then not add anything until 15 minutes left. Hit it with 1.5-2 ounces of something, pop some in at around the 7-5 min mark, and save another ounce or two for the hot stand/whirl pool.

    Do another 2 ounces in the dry hop and call it a day. Unless you want to use up some hops and see what shines through.
     
    #8 FATC1TY, May 15, 2013
  9. GhengisT

    GhengisT Initiate (0) May 16, 2013 California

    I agree. Looks great, but I'd like to see you put some more effort into your efficiency. That missing 35% belongs to your wallet my friend!
     
    #9 GhengisT, May 16, 2013
  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    What's wrong with his efficiency? I generally 'no sparge' mash (single infusion plus mashout) and I target 70% mash efficiency intentionally. I like the results. (If I was overly concerned about cost, homebrewing wouldn't be my hobby.)
     
    #10 VikeMan, May 16, 2013
  11. smchenry75

    smchenry75 Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2010 Indiana

    Please define "apparent mess"?
     
    #11 smchenry75, May 16, 2013
  12. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    By apparent mess, I mean the .5 here times 3 hop varieties, and then 5 minutes later, add the same addition.

    You are complicating it, but it seems you like it, and obviously thats the choice to go with.

    Laying the hops is great, I do it in most IPA's and Pales I do. I've even been told by plenty of folks that I do a great job of doing different hop schedules over the 60/10/0 that most breweries and people do.

    I'd just stick to the idea of loading up at 7-5 minutes the hop I want to taste the most, the hop stand and the flame out additions are the most important.. Popping off equal amounts of 3-4 hops, in the same amount, at the same time, is a bit overboard, and benign at the same time to me. You don't want something overly hoppy, yet 11.5 ounces in just the kettle is in there? You could cut it down and be just fine, IMO.

    I've brewed hoppy light IPA's with half that were so packed full of hoppy bliss.

    But go for it, I wasn't the one asking for critique of my IPA's as I'm happy with them.
     
    #12 FATC1TY, May 16, 2013
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