Pliny Pronounciation

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  1. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    A short i in Latin is pronounced like our short i, as in knit.
    A long i in Latin is pronounced like our long e, like ski.
    Our long i, as in mine, is their ai and ae dipthongs. (hence Gaius is pronounced guy-us).

    The problem that comes up is that Latin changed significantly in the Middle Ages, including many changes in vowel pronunciation. For instance, alumni, the plural of alumnus, is classically pronounced a-lum-knee. The way we pronounce it today is actually how classically you would pronounce alumnae, the feminine plural (i.e. a group of more than one alumna in which all members were female).
     
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  2. grze

    grze Maven (1,460) Apr 17, 2012 Virginia
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    Oh, ok, now it makes sense, so you actually didn't write in phonetically, but as in latin. Alright. And now to crown the last 15 minutes of this debate and finally clarify everything, here's what I did: http://grze.net/temp/plinius.m4a
    That is my pronunciation :slight_smile: Let me know what you think.
     
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  3. SDReaper

    SDReaper Pooh-Bah (2,174) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    Wow, who needs school? I just learned latin over the course of an afternoon!
     
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  4. grze

    grze Maven (1,460) Apr 17, 2012 Virginia
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    or irrevocably lost half an hour of your life if we're all wrong :wink:
     
  5. dcgunman

    dcgunman Pooh-Bah (2,682) Jul 1, 2009 California
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  6. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    spot on. From the start I could have used IPA (not that IPA guys!), but it probably would have confused people more.
     
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  7. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    now Im gonna have to have an IPA to make up for all this blabbering on my part.
     
  8. CyberMonk

    CyberMonk Crusader (421) May 18, 2010 California

    This escalated quickly :rolling_eyes:
     
  9. SDReaper

    SDReaper Pooh-Bah (2,174) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    So....just like a school lecture. =P
     
  10. Sumdeus

    Sumdeus Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2014 Indiana

    One beer thread going into classical Latin pronunciation history... Another diverging in to WoW/MMOs... What next?
     
  11. 01Ryan10

    01Ryan10 Initiate (0) Sep 10, 2011 California

    the historical figure is pronounced, "plin-e"

    Vinny pronounces the beer, "pline-e"
     
  12. kpacedo

    kpacedo Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    You fuckers are killing beer.
     
  13. AndrewK

    AndrewK Savant (1,123) Oct 20, 2006 California

    You heard it here first folks. The death knell of beer: Craft beer drinkers discussing Latin.
     
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  14. grze

    grze Maven (1,460) Apr 17, 2012 Virginia
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    Now I want to drink the most latin-sounding beer I have in my cellar tonight. Veritas anyone? Immelmann could do it, but that's more German.
     
  15. SDReaper

    SDReaper Pooh-Bah (2,174) Aug 15, 2013 California
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    *crossing fingers* California perhaps getting some water....
     
  16. CyberMonk

    CyberMonk Crusader (421) May 18, 2010 California

    I don't understand the hate myself. What's wrong with wanting to know how something is pronounced?

    Admission: I studied English in college, so prolonged debates over obscure dictional or grammatical concerns aren't exactly outside my wheelhouse :wink:
     
  17. CyberMonk

    CyberMonk Crusader (421) May 18, 2010 California

    Lazy thread may well be lazy. Meanwhile, however, many of us (myself included, don't get me wrong) are spending 30-plus dollars on bottles of beer largely based on name recognition, relative difficulty to acquire, or both; debating the merits of X bottle versus Y bottle in minute detail; and damning any brewery that dare make a misstep (hello Bruery!).

    God forbid, though, that anyone discuss the likes of Pliny :wink:
     
  18. proseberry

    proseberry Initiate (0) May 2, 2008 Illinois

    Yeah. Look for the T Shirt and the Beard. That'll save me mucho dinero!!! Thanks.
     
  19. Black_Rider

    Black_Rider Pooh-Bah (2,019) Mar 26, 2013 California
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    why would you post multiple times in a thread that you don't deem discussion worthy? i guess because you are such a non-conformist?
     
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  20. proseberry

    proseberry Initiate (0) May 2, 2008 Illinois

    Catchy_Name need not inquire. Hilarious!!!
     
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