Pliny the Younger 2017 in PDX

Ehhhh GNB isn't hated by locals by any means.

I don't think Apex's draft pricing is out of line, but charging for tasters is unique to Apex, as far as I know. It's one thing not to pour tasters/to limit them to 1 per drink when it's busy, or even not to pour tasters of the beers that they have small kegs of, but to charge someone for a sip when none of those conditions are met is weird to me and unique in an undesirable way.

 

Folks from California typically have vastly different preferences than folks from Oregon/Washington. Obviously just my experience. Also, with regard to pricing comparisons it would probably make more sense to compare pricing regionally. I'm not sure what is accomplished by comparing prices in Portland to those in SF.

Personally, I take more into account than just my own personal experiences when choosing which businesses to support. If I know that a business is doing things that I have a major issue with then I don't support them. Doesn't matter if any of these issues have happened to me personally. I'm sure there are plenty of folks that simply don't have an issue with some of their more questionable business practices .... and that is totally fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I will continue to bash businesses that do shitty things whenever the opportunity arises, regardless of whether or not there is a dedicated thread. I believe many visitors to the area would find this information useful when deciding which places to check out while in town. I know that I would.

 

You're using examples of a Triple IPA and Pliny to bash Apex about their prices. Be glad they even get PTE on a regular basis. Of course I've seen people on here say the "shit show" of PTY needs to go so they must not care.

 

Do you realize how lucky people in Portland are to even have it available on a regular basis? People in the rest of the country read you complaining about the price of PTE at Apex yet they'll never see it in their area.

 

County Cork Public House in North Portland has Pliny the Elder on about every other month.

 

Side street tavern has younger on right now,

 

Good lord you are thin-skinned when it comes to any kind of pushback against Great Notion.

"Hated by locals." What nonsense.

 

I genuflect before you, John.

Throughout our long internet relationship, through our infrequent, but true, real-life, personal interactions, I have found you to be a smart, funny, creative individual, who does not shy away from saying what you think.

That last sentence was the most perfectly funny thing I've ever encountered on BA.

No shit.

I'm a very tough crowd.

There are reasons I keep hanging around this joint, and you exemplify them.

 

That's fine. I tend to go with my own personal experience when rating/reviewing/recommending a place, as I've had positive experiences at places that get negative reviews (i.e. APEX), and vice versa.

That's cool. And I'll continue to offer my opinion that I think APEX is one of the top 3-4 beer bars in Portland.

Also, we still need to get a beer at b2 sometime. Can't believe I haven't run into you there yet.

 

Twist is chill right now. A few drift in now and then to taste PtY.

 

Pretty great John but not as great as the '13 from what I remember. Whereas the '13 was heavenly smoothness this has an edge to it that doesn't seperate it from other top beers. Still the gold standard though. Glad I came.

 

APEX is awesome. Bunch of haters here. Go check it out and form your own opinions.

 

Not only continue to support, but continue to come on here and bitch about it.

 

This is why it's a good thing this forum is made up of more than one voice. Everyone can give their input and the readers can choose for themselves whether to give the place a shot or not. I'm not sure why everyone jumps on the folks that voice their displeasure with the place though. It's not like those that have had negative experiences with the place are making it up. Those opinions are just as valid as all the others.

Well that worked out. Hope to do it again sometime soon.

I'm not sure how voicing one's negative opinions of a place makes them a 'hater', but then again I've never really understood that word. I also agree that folks should check it out for themselves as well. I may even give them another shot one of these days ... at some point they may decide to stop participating in some of the things that I find so distasteful in the beer community and not at all in the vein of beer advocacy.

You absolutely should continue to voice your support if you really like the place that much. And I will continue to be a 'hater' and come on here to 'bitch about it'.