Polish Amber Ale & Czech Polotmavy

Some of the beers brewed in Scandinavia described Baltic Porter are top-fermented. The Polish ones are all bottom-fermented.

 

I bow respectfully to the superior knowledge of you and jesskidden, but, as I said, I posted based on the "common knowledge" of several different websites.

 

Thanks! You're right though, I wouldn't expect to track that down. Are there any more available berliners that you enjoy?

 

Baltic porters are lagers. Hard to believe but true

 

Scandinavian brewers have uniquovically used the terms porter or stout porter, or imperial stout to refer to their porters. The term Baltic porter only existed outside of the baltic region (and possibly post 1990s due to Michael Jackson), but it has been adopted by a company like Carlsberg Sweden in recent years since Carnegie Porter is now bottom fermented. Calling it a baltic porter makes it sound more historically established, rather than being the result of consolidation and standardization by Pripps (which bought Carnegie, which was later later bought by Carlsberg). Carnegie used to brew top fermented porter beers in the English style, but Pripps switched it over to a mixed strain and later to a bottom fermenting yeast in the early 90s (and it's been bottom fermenting ever since).

Bottom fermenting porters were brewed in Sweden since the 1840s, but that first porter was called a "Bavarian porter", with Bavarian being the term for the new bottom fermenting lager beer (and "Bavarian porter" doesn't survive the century, porter on the other hand does).

 

This is what comes from the decision to classify beers as ales (top fermented) or lagers (bottom fermented) without regards to the background of each.It makes understanding of established beer types very difficult.Porters do not derive from the ale family; to call them such confuses the issue.They are beers whether top or bottom fermented.