Poll: Pumpkin Pie vs. Pumpkin Squash Flavor

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Pumpkin Pie vs. Pumpkin Squash Flavor

  1. Pumpkin Pie

  2. Pumpkin Squash

  3. Mashup of Both

  4. No pumpkin for you

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  1. seakayak

    seakayak Defender (685) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    On the pumpkin ale spectrum, do you prefer pumpkin-pie or pumpkin-squash flavor?

    Your examples are welcome and encouraged.

    I'll start:
    -Pumpkin Pie: Harpoon UFO Pumpkin
    -Pumpkin Squash: Smuttynose Pumpkin Ale
     
  2. BeerVikingSailor

    BeerVikingSailor Savant (953) Nov 19, 2009 Ohio
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    Have you ever eaten a piece of pumpkin?

    Not a lot of flavor actually.....

    Pumpkin (or squash in general) does not really add a lot of flavor to a beer.....it adds some fermentable sugars and mouthfeel....but not a lot of flavor overall

    Anyway, I tend to like all kinds of pumpkin beers.....there are not that many "pumpkin flavored" ones really; I also like the Smuttynose version, but not because of any perceived pumpkin flavor per se, just like the balance of the beer, and not too sweet or spicy compared to others.
     
  3. teromous

    teromous Poo-Bah (2,874) Mar 21, 2010 Virginia
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    Both. There's something to be said about breweries that go through great lengths to put real pumpkin in their beer when they know most people associate "pumpkin" with the traditional pumpkin pie spices. Additional kudos to breweries that find the right balance of spices.
     
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  4. Lucular

    Lucular Poo-Bah (3,315) Jun 20, 2014 Maryland
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    The spices are what make a pumpkin beer. I get pie spices and graham crackers with Pumking; I'm sure the pumpkin is in there somewhere, but that's not what jumps out at you.
     
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  5. EchoesZ

    EchoesZ Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2013 Arkansas

    This is always a nice seasonal from Mothers
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  6. coldy

    coldy Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2010 Delaware

    I think both varieties can be very good. I've noticed that many of the pumpkin pie beers have gone to just an overwhelming nutmeg or cinnamon flavor. Rogue seems to make a nice pumpkin patch beer taste of fresh pumpkin without the overwhelming sweetness.
    Punkin Ale is the one that I can drink several of in a sitting without tiring of the taste.
     
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  7. jpuetz

    jpuetz Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2014 South Dakota
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    Pumpkin Pie! All spice, nutmeg, cinnamon and ginger. Mmmmm.
     
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  8. ThomasJ25

    ThomasJ25 Initiate (0) Jun 2, 2014 Pennsylvania

    All I have to say is Stevens Point Whole Hog Pumpkin...
     
  9. Buschyfor3

    Buschyfor3 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2009 Kentucky

    I tend to favor the examples that trend more towards the pumpkin-pie spice flavor
     
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  10. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa

    Same. I'm not a huge fan of pumpkins anything but I do enjoy the spice in schlafly quite a bit.
     
  11. Yargamo

    Yargamo Initiate (0) Jun 9, 2015 New York

    Smuttynose is really the only pumpkin beer I can enjoy more than one of.
     
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  12. MisSigsFan

    MisSigsFan Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2013 California

    The flavor isn't pumpkin, it's cinammon, sugar, nutmeg, etc...
     
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  13. bowzer4birdie

    bowzer4birdie Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2012 Illinois

    Pumpkin Pie all day every day!
     
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  14. MastaaaGrillaaa

    MastaaaGrillaaa Initiate (143) Feb 10, 2015 Ohio
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    At the risk of bringing out the Anti-Pumking army, I think Pumking nails a graham cracker finishing note that no other beer does. I for one, love it.
     
  15. beerded_drunk

    beerded_drunk Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I'm generally not a fan but i'll probably have 1-2 pumpkings when it cools off. I do however dig timmermans pumpkin lambicus.
     
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  16. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Champion (849) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    Like @BeerVikingSailor said, Pumpkin adds minimal flavour. Pumpkin Pie spices are what make an excellent Pumpkin beer, just as long as it doesn't turn out overly sweet.
     
  17. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Zealot (572) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia
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    Saucony Creek Maple Mistress I really liked last year, and that is straight up butternut squash. But I'm also into the pumpkin/pumpkin-puree beers. So both for me.
     
  18. Bear1964

    Bear1964 Zealot (513) Dec 12, 2012 Nebraska

    I love both and look forward to trying them all, only down side is when I'm in the mood for one type and the single I picked up is the other....overall the Pumpkin Pie Spice is good most times.
     
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  19. Dogtirednj

    Dogtirednj Initiate (0) Aug 20, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I've said before that I really like Alewerks Pumpkin Ale. It's not a spice bomb, but rather the flavor of toasted pumpkin seeds shines through with that delicious malt. It has kind of turned me off the pumpkin pie spiced beers.
     
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  20. Tut

    Tut Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2004 New York

    Simply not true. I doubt you've ever had a real, well done, pumpkin mash beer. Any brewer can add spices to make the typical and vinordinaire pumpkin pie flavored beer. It's bullshit. The skill and craftsmanship comes from the ability to combine the earthy mash with a minimal and restrained use of spices.
     
  21. vshay

    vshay Initiate (0) Jun 23, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I love Maple Mistress. A friend of mine does draws up their labels
     
  22. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Poo-Bah (1,880) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    I loved Williamsburg AleWerks Pumpkin Ale, but we don't get that anymore, I still love Pumking, I can almost taste a buttery crust while I'm drinking it
     
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  23. TongoRad

    TongoRad Poo-Bah (2,860) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    As much as I respect the Smuttynose take, and it's one of a few that I can see drinking multiple glasses in a row without becoming overbearing, that's just not where my head is at with pumpkin beers lately. I want them to be a dessert that I will very occasionally partake in, and to be turned up to 11. Something that goes well with vanilla ice cream in it is a big plus :grinning:.
     
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  24. cjgiant

    cjgiant Poo-Bah (5,378) Jul 13, 2013 District of Columbia
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    My very uneducated thought is that the pumpkin beers I've had and liked that use real pumpkin have a slight tart bitterness to them that I've perhaps erroneously associated with the squash itself, on top of being properly spiced. The good ones also seem to have something else than just spice, a little bit of body in a sense, but that could just be because they are better made beers.
     
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  25. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Champion (849) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    I've never had a brew with a solid pumpkin flavour that wasn't full of spices but then again, my neck of the woods is pretty neglected distribution-wise. Are there any widely available examples that you can think of with the "real, well done, pumpkin mash beer" ?
     
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  26. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Pumpkin pie for sure. Actual pumpkin is a bit gross by itself.
     
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  27. Ristaccia

    Ristaccia Crusader (737) Nov 21, 2012 Nebraska

    I prefer pumpkin pie, though pumpkin squash can be done well. My favorites for each thusfar:

    Pumpkin Pie: Pumking
    Pumpkin Squash: Night Owl
     
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  28. The_Snow_Bird

    The_Snow_Bird Poo-Bah (1,762) May 7, 2015 Florida
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    Pumpkin pie for me, as long as they don't over do it with the spices.
     
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  29. seakayak

    seakayak Defender (685) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Too many pie-spice lovers drop money on a "best" or "favorite" recommendation, only to find out that it's the best earthy-squashy-gourdy pumpkin ale in the land. Likewise, subtle squash lovers get blasted with pie-in-the-face spice bombs - what a disappointment and waste of money either way.

    Here are some debatable examples and where they fall on the pumpkin spectrum:

    Pumpkin Pie:
    -Harpoon UFO Pumpkin
    -Southern Tier Pumking
    -Weyerbacher Imperial Pumpkin Ale
    -Shipyard Pumpkinhead Ale
    -Wachusett Pumpkan
    -Long Trail Pumpkin Ale

    Mashup of Both:
    -Dogfish Head Pumpkin Ale
    -Schlafly Pumpkin Ale
    -Sam Adams Harvest Pumpkin Ale

    Pumpkin Squash:
    -Smuttynose Pumpkin Ale
    -Elysian Night Owl Pumpkin Ale
    -Ithaca Country Pumpkin
    -Uinta Punk'N
    -Brooklyn Post Road Pumpkin Ale
    -Anderson Valley Fall Hornin' Pumpkin Ale
     
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  30. LeRose

    LeRose Poo-Bah (1,530) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I voted no pumpkin. My wife tries them - whatever she can find - and the tolerable one for me was Jack's Abby Pumpkin Crop Lager. Neither the squash version nor the pie versions make me happy.
     
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  31. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Poo-Bah (3,348) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    Pumpkin Pie: Crown Valley Imperial Pumpkin Smash
    Pumpkin Squash: CCB Good Gourd
     
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  32. FaradayUncaged

    FaradayUncaged Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Michigan

    As a huge fan of different squash varieties, I still have to go with pie on this one.
     
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  33. Urk1127

    Urk1127 Poo-Bah (1,849) Jul 2, 2014 New Jersey
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    I prefer pumpkin flavor not pie. Because i think cinnamon is absolutely gross. i cant even smell it. Lol.
     
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  34. Tut

    Tut Initiate (0) Sep 23, 2004 New York

    The best I've had was from McAuslan in Montreal. Compared to many other pumpkin beers, the spices are restrained. Certainly noticible, but not over the top. That allows more of the earthy pumpkin taste to come through. Haven't had it in awhile though.
     
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  35. Dil_thebeerdrinking_do

    Dil_thebeerdrinking_do Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Georgia

    Pumpkin Squash as in the Yam flavor>?
     
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  36. Shafaegalo

    Shafaegalo Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2014 Texas

    Really enjoy the pumpkin pie flavor in my pumpkin beer. Like someone mentioned earlier pumpkin by itself doesn't add a whole lot of flavor (more mouthful I believe). But nothing beats watching the leaves fall from the trees sitting on the back porch with a big glass of Nightmare on First Street from No Label Brewing in Houston. Tastes exactly like a pumpkin pie right down to the crust. A close second would be Pumpkinator from St. Arnold.
     
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  37. seakayak

    seakayak Defender (685) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    By Pumpkin Squash flavor I mean the fresh-cut jack-o'-lantern, pumpkin rind, pumpkin meat vegetable flavor at one end of the spectrum, and the Pumpkin Pie spices of cinnamon, nutmeg, ginger, and allspice at the other end.
     
  38. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Champion (849) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    Awesome. I'll have to try and get my hands on some of it if I can. Thanks for your direction!
     
  39. seakayak

    seakayak Defender (685) May 20, 2007 Massachusetts
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    Here's an update with your suggestions added:

    Pumpkin Pie Dominant:
    -Harpoon UFO Pumpkin
    -Southern Tier Pumking
    -Southern Tier Warlock (stout)
    -Weyerbacher Imperial Pumpkin Ale
    -Shipyard Pumpkinhead Ale
    -Wachusett Pumpkan
    -Long Trail Pumpkin Ale
    -Crown Valley Imperial Pumpkin Smash (stout)
    -No Label Brewing Nightmare on 1st Street
    -St. Arnold Pumpkinator (stout)

    Mashup of Both:
    -Dogfish Head Pumpkin Ale
    -Schlafly Pumpkin Ale
    -Sam Adams Harvest Pumpkin Ale
    -Rogue Farms Pumpkin Patch Ale
    -Stevens Point Whole Hog Pumpkin Ale
    -Jack's Abby Pumpkin Crop Lager

    Pumpkin Squash Dominant:
    -Smuttynose Pumpkin Ale
    -Elysian Night Owl Pumpkin Ale
    -Ithaca Country Pumpkin
    -Uinta Punk'N
    -Brooklyn Post Road Pumpkin Ale
    -Anderson Valley Fall Hornin' Pumpkin Ale
    -AleWerks Pumpkin Ale
    -Cigar City Good Gourd Imperial Pumpkin Ale
    -McAuslan Great Pumpkin Ale

    Other Flavorings Added:
    -Mother's Squashed Chocolate Pumpkin Porter (chocolate)
    -Timmerman's Pumpkin Lambicus (apples)
    -Saucony Creek Maple Mistress Imperial Pumpkin Ale (butternut squash and maple syrup)
     
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  40. xare

    xare Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2006 Ohio

    New Holland Ichabod is the best pumpkin beer I've had, and I think it falls more on the squash side but is actually a mashup. You get a light balanced spice mix on the front, then the pumpkin squash flavor on the back end of every swig. Tastes like beer, but more like a balanced pumpkin pie flavor.
     
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