Poll: Would you sell out?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Badfish, May 9, 2017.

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Would you sell out?

  1. Yes

  2. No

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  1. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I would amend yours to indicate that the above is the difference between a good business and a bad business. Just to show you how much this is true and how poorly your definition works, specifically how well does someone need to treat their employees to not be a sellout, and exactly how much of a focus does a business need to have on profit to be a sellout. I know that no interest in profit is a dead business, how much interest in profit before you're a sellout? How good does your beer need to be, and how much of the focus, before you're a sellout?

    No, the selling out started when a person says,"Man I love beer. I could buy it at the store. I could hire someone to make it for me. I could make it for myself. I could sell it for a profit as a business." That last one, that's the moment you sell out.
     
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  2. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Nicely said.
     
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  3. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Sorry but I disagree. Not with what you are trying to say but with the way you have chosen to say it. Money is a means to an end a way of keeping score. The sellout begins when one sacrifices personal growth and values for the money and it becomes more than just a way of keeping score. The sell out begins when the money becomes more important than anything else. However, not being a telepath I have no unbiased way of recognizing when or if that shift has taken place.
     
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  4. Squire

    Squire Grand Pooh-Bah (4,385) Jul 16, 2015 Mississippi
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    Hard work and dedication build a business but making good business decisions keep it going. The years go by, the kids grow up to pursue other interests, you're going to more funerals than weddings and along comes someone offering enough money to see your entire family financially fixed for generations to come. Personal issues aside it may simply be the best business decision to sell.
     
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  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Suppose you wanted to own a Trappist brewery and their brands.

    So how many 0's do you think it would take to change the minds of the Trappist Monks who oversee the brewing of the beers used to support the their Abbey and life style and their charitable work? (Keeping in mind the fact that they have already walked away from the pursuit a material life style in exchange for a life style committed to contemplation and worship and the work required to make it all possible.)
     
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  6. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Lots of agreement here but, having traveled during my professional career to several different countries for work related purposes, I'd say you don't need to restrict the notion of latching on to binary thinking as being something unique to the US.
     
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  7. matthewp

    matthewp Pundit (856) Feb 27, 2015 Massachusetts
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    By your definition everyone is a sellout who does anything for money. If you are good at building cabinets and decide that you are going to work for a business that makes cabinets are you a sellout? Is the brewer who works for a brewery a sellout? They are making beer for a profit.
     
  8. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    They are no more nor less a sellout than if they decided to sell the business, even if it is to a multi-national conglomerate, was my point.
     
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