who thinks this would be fair 1:1? trying to put together a HF for TG box. seems fair in my eyes, but I know the assassin hype is pretty insane... and please correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't there only been one batch of port damon? I feel like that would even the playing field (as well as it being an incredible beer).
Probably going to take a good deal more I'd say...although I did do a deal shortly after assassin came out for one that included bourbon damon for one of the assassins in that deal.
why does assassin trade so ridiculously high? Im sure its an amazing beer and I really want to try it, yes its from a world class brewery, yes its rare, but it is released at least annually. port damon may never be released again. does it all simply come down to the pappy barrels?
The 100 BA rating vs the 94 BA rating has something to do with it, and yes bourbon barrels (particularly pappy) are sexier than lowly port. The higher bottle count also means it's better known, not everyone knows about Port Damon but there's enough buzz about Assassin that a certain amount of hype results from that.
and i just want to be clear, i am not bashing assassin and am not saying that it doesn't deserve the hype, but am genuinely curious as to why it would trade higher than port damon. I see the two on the same level.
good points. but wouldn't you think the extreme rarity of port damon, and the HF magic that surrounds it, balances out the slightly lower BA rating and lower viewed barrel? anyways, these are just my thoughts. and if any TG locals see this and have an assassin to spare and is interested in doing a 6:6 HF for TG box around the next king sue release shoot me a message...
I think it's safe to say the magic of TG and the magic of HF are roughly equal and balance each other out. And again rarity can work against its value too. Ever heard of Jester King Biere de Merlot? 12 bottles never sold to the public, only good friends of the brewers who had big stuff to trade got any. Would theoretically command a lot as a one-off Jester King fruited sour except that so few people have them, and so few people know it was ever bottled, that its trade value is relatively low considering.
i feel like the HF damon series is as well known as assassin though. I would imagine DB damon would land an assassin no problem, which is an even smaller bottle count than port damon. is port damon just in some weird middle zone of being too few bottles to be super well known, and not having quite enough flare to match up to assassin? (immense quality of the beer completely disregarded)
DB Damon is more KBBS level as I understand it. I think that middle zone description is probably pretty accurate.
I haven't had it but I think Port Damon also has somewhat of a bad reputation or there were off bottles or something like that. There was some kind of discussion on here not long ago where people were saying that it just wasn't as good as you might think. I love port wine, so I'd be all over it if possible, but ???
Just drank my bottle of Port Damon last weekend. It was surprisingly smokey. Pretty tasty overall. Given how many Assassins I've traded for now and what I've sent for them, I think it should be an easy 1:1 trade with Port Damon. But I think it would take the right person to do that trade. Lots of people simply don't like Port and have little interest in drinking beers aged in Port barrels. Regarding the comment about off bottles, I have no idea if there are bad bottles out there, but mine was fine.
I think it was as you said, some people just didn't like the port. Agree though that from what I've seen it should be equivalent.
i don't remember hearing about any off bottle of the port damon. The one I had was incredible. tons are dark fruit character. maybe you're thinking of the DB damon? I heard there were several db damon bottles that didn't carbonate.
This. Trade value is directly related to how desirable a beer is viewed to be, which is in large part a function of how good people on BA believe it to be, which is directly represented by its BA rating. Sure, rarity comes into play, but in the end its not as big a factor as perceived quality.
Precisely. Sure KBBS is rare and that has something to do with its trade value, but it's also managed to maintain a remarkable 4.83 rating over nearly 400 different reviews. That's insane, and no other beer currently on the market really comes close. Even if KBBS saw nationwide distro comparable to Bcbs Rare, it would still trade insanely high. Rare has a 4.8, and every .01 above that is just going to increase the desire value further.
