Porter vs Stout

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  1. Ale_Dog

    Ale_Dog Initiate (0) May 13, 2014 New York

    It's hard to tell the difference these days between a porter and a stout. The official descriptions are not that helpful either. What are your thoughts on the styles?
     
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  2. gatornation

    gatornation Grand High Pooh-Bah (10,388) Apr 18, 2007 Arizona
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    Real Close in Flavors and characteristics IMO I do think porters have a more bitter/roasted malt profile and it seems brewers BA stouts more than porters
     
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  3. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    Wow it has been about a week since this subject has come up. This can't be resolved so lets just say they are the same but different.
     
  4. Scarfer_Brad

    Scarfer_Brad Initiate (0) Mar 19, 2014 Florida
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    Déjà vu all over again
     
  5. ClePaul

    ClePaul Maven (1,289) May 30, 2013 Ohio

    I get asked this a lot... I really do think it should be addressed one day. I use to think Stouts were basically double Porters. Which makes sense most of the time... except this equation doesn't seem to add up (Victory at Sea X 2= Guinness)
     
  6. hopnado

    hopnado Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2014 Michigan

    A stout is a porter...I think
     
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  7. TonyLema1

    TonyLema1 Pooh-Bah (2,890) Nov 19, 2008 South Carolina
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    For the most part, I think stouts are more full-bodied
     
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  8. Brutaltruth

    Brutaltruth Grand Pooh-Bah (3,539) Mar 22, 2014 Ohio
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    By traditional descriptions of the "entire butt" a porter is a stout mixed with a high gravity ale to make a dark brown libation with lighter qualities since the 1800's. Love em' both, but Americans have taken the style to more of a stout level.....no complaints here, yet the style has suffered. You can put some brown ales in there as well that border on porter stout levels.
     
  9. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    Please search the forums before posting. This question has come up a ridiculous amount of times, and a simple search could have given you all the information you need to answer your query.

    Today, there is essentially no difference. It is up to the brewery to decide what they want to refer to the beer as, and that is the only distinction. Formerly, stout was a type of porter.

    If I were to decide on a difference, I would make porters thinner and have drier and roastier character, while stouts would be thicker and have more chocolate/coffee/dark fruit character.
     
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  10. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Stouts are the ones that start with S.
     
  11. gonzo000

    gonzo000 Initiate (0) Feb 9, 2014 Massachusetts

    Stouts are shorter, rounder people - like myself. Porters carry your bags. A stout porter is a short round man working at a hotel. A porter stout is someone working at a hotel that happens to be short and round. Round and 'round was a song by Ratt, but that is not important right now.
     
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  12. rozzom

    rozzom Pooh-Bah (2,620) Jan 22, 2011 New York
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    No difference in theory. But I feel like (with some obvious exceptions), a lot of the time a brewery's porter could also be their standard run-of-the-mill stout in their line-up, and they reserve the stout classification for bigger beers
     
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  13. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Pooh-Bah (2,116) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Ah this topic again

    Honestly, I'm not sure there is a difference these days
     
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  14. TappaKeggaBrew

    TappaKeggaBrew Pundit (935) Apr 30, 2009 Virginia

    The difference has always been somewhat subjective, dating back to the origins of porter in London 350 years ago. Stouts traditionally had a higher FG than porters, but where the line was drawn was (and still is) up to the individual brewery.
     
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  15. Ale_Dog

    Ale_Dog Initiate (0) May 13, 2014 New York

    While this was posted before, this still didn't answer a thing. Is it correct that stout is a description of a porter--a stout porter?
     
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  16. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    Porter can be a stout.
    Stout can be a porter.
    Sometimes though, some porters are not stout.
    And sometimes, some stouts are not porters.

    I do hope that has cleared things up for you.
     
  17. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    Hopefully this article will be helpful-
    http://www.beerconnoisseur.com/porter-versus-stout

     
  18. DelMontiac

    DelMontiac Initiate (0) Oct 22, 2010 Oklahoma

    I go by whatever the label claims it to be.
     
  19. Ale_Dog

    Ale_Dog Initiate (0) May 13, 2014 New York

    Exactly the purpose of this thread. By the term Stout it would only make sense that the beer could be as robust as the brewers want it to be. But ver disappointing when one cracks open a highly regarded porter to find that it is very robust and even boozy; not only a stout (IMO) but likely an imperial stout at that. What's the sense of the label if it doesn't let you have a reasonable idea of what you are getting?
     
  20. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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