Possible overcarbing?

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  1. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    So a few of my latest batches have had a peculiar knack for not being bottle bombs (had none of THOSE yet) but more or less volcanoes when I open them. I tend to stick around 2.4-2.6 volumes of carb. Almost always use table sugar to prime, but lately been thinking maybe I should switch to corn sugar. Any reason or thoughts to why I have erupting brew?
     
  2. nquigley16

    nquigley16 Initiate (0) Sep 18, 2012 Massachusetts

    Could be from nucleation sites in the bottle, if you don't clean then well enough, if there are maybe little pieces of hop leaves in there. Any rough site inside the bottle with promote a more rapid release of C02 bubbles when the beer is opened.
     
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  3. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    Are you positive you're letting the beers completely finish out before bottling?
     
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  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Choice of sugar type, assuming you're using appropriate amounts, doesn't cause or prevent gushers, which can really only be caused by three things...

    - too much (or unevenly distributed) priming sugar
    - incomplete attenuation before bottling
    - infection
     
  5. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Could be that the beer wasn't done fermenting and yeast fermenting more than just your priming mix will lead to gushers. Could also be an infection where either Brett or a bacteria is in the bottles, and they can eat sugar chains that regular brewers yeast cannot leading to gushers and eventually bottle bombs.

    Any off flavors in the beer or just over carbed? Also how much sugar are you using to prime?

    Priming amounts also depend on the volume of beer your bottling and I suggest using this calculator when figuring out amounts.

    http://hbd.org/cgi-bin/recipator/recipator/carbonation.html?16279076#tag
     
  6. billandsuz

    billandsuz Pooh-Bah (2,097) Sep 1, 2004 New York
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    use a scale and a decent carb calculator if you aren't already. measuring priming sugar by volume is not as accurate, after a few batches you should be able to estimate your volume (4.8 gallons instead of 5 for example) and dial in your desired carbonation.

    in the meantime, be sure the gushers are very cold before you crack them open as this can help if not eliminate gushing.
    Cheers.
     
  7. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Normally I keep my beers for at least 3-4 weeks. No reason they shouldnt be done. The last gusher was in primary for 2 weeks, secondary on oak for 4 weeks, and dry hopped in a third for a week.
     
  8. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    I use Beer Smith for all my calculations for carbing and such.
     
  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    But do you take gravity readings to be sure?
     
  10. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    That should be plenty of time. If you have unhealthy or overly floculent yeast it could prematurely fall out of suspension before finishing the beer out. Then when you bottle you might restir up the yeast and it can take off again. I'm sure it's not the problem, especially if you keep an eye on your FG.
     
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  11. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    None so far, I've made some pretty decent beers if I do say so myself. Only 1 bad batch, but that was due to underoxygenating when brewed.
     
  12. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Most of the time. I know I should take 3 readings a couple days apart to make sure. But I get thirsty for new homebrew!
     
  13. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    I always only take two readings and it's rarely steered me wrong. I would always take readings though. Sweet back piece btw.
     
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  14. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Thank you. Very expensive and took a long friggin time!
     
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  15. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    Yea the beers should have finished in those time frames given adequate pitch rates. Sounds like a possible contamination to me. You may have bottle bomb's in your future. :slight_frown:

    Edit*. Put most in the fridge to keep from exploding if they taste alright and if you wanna find out what's going on put a bottle at room temp in some type of rudimentary bomb shelter.
     
  16. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    This ^^^^ plus other lesser factors can cause an extended fermentation period that needs to be discovered by those final gravity readings. Being patient means a lot in this hobby.
     
  17. psnydez86

    psnydez86 Initiate (0) Jan 4, 2012 Pennsylvania

    It can take some time for an infection to really show itself. If you like the taste now store as many as you can as cold as you can and drink away!!
     
  18. Smokebox_79

    Smokebox_79 Initiate (0) Jan 11, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Not sure about the infection cause Im very OCD when it comes to sanitization. Try my best to keep everything clean and sanitized when I brew. I have some beers that are a few months old and nothing has gotten worse, only better with age. Hence why I asked about overcarbing! Possibly low temps cause I do ferment in my basement and its perfect over summer, maybe colder now and during winter. Maybe low 60's to upper 50's.
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    So, what exactly is your priming process? Do you measure the table sugar by weight? If so, how many ounces (by weight) do you use? What is the volume of the beer that you add the sugar to? Are you able to measure your beer volume?

    Cheers!
     
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  20. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I'd get those in the freezer and drop them to about 30F before opening them. Hopefully that will drop the carbonation into the beer and keep it calm until you can get it into a glass. Otherwise, you can gently pry the top a little and hear a hiss. Back off it and see if the bottle seals back up. If it does, you just removed a little of the pressure and you might be good to go. I'd try this on a small scale before doing all 5 gallons
     
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