Post your screw ups and what you learned from them

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  1. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    I will go first!

    Today I didn't follow my own procedure as outlined in my own blog.

    I usually make a checklist before brewing, and today I got started, got distracted, and blew off the checklist. then I had a couple beers. You can see where this is going already...

    So anyway, I forgot the DME. :rolling_eyes:

    I tried a new "stove top mash" procedure with about five pounds of grain in an English CDA partial-mash recipe. I got so distracted that when the time came, I didn't even notice that I forgot to add the bag of dried malt extract that comprised a good percentage of the fermentables.

    :astonished:

    So of course this is a horrible tragedy of epic proportions, eclipsing everything from Krakatoa to the extinction of the dinosaurs, right? :confused:

    Well, maybe not. I definitely learned a few things, and as it turns out, I think I can save the batch without any major issues. Here's what I've learned today...

    1. If you write "create checklist" on your procedure as the #1 entry, CREATE THE FUCKING CHECKLIST, THEN FOLLOW IT.

    2. The OG will be WAY off if you forget to add the DME in a partial mash or extract batch. :rolling_eyes:

    Truthfully, it's pretty easy to just boil up the extract in an extra gallon, then add it to the batch. That's what I did to fix the batch. We'll see how it comes out, but other than perhaps slightly reduced hops utilization, I don't think it's a major screw up (in that it probably won't result in dumping the entire batch, not that it's NOT a "major" screw up LOL).

    Here's an interesting thing that I DID learn from today's unforced error though...

    I was trying a new "stove top partial mash" procedure that I basically pulled right out of my friggin' ass today. Thinking about this is probably what got me distracted in the first place. Anyway, here's how I did it...

    I got approximately 1.5 quarts of water up to 160F per pound of grain (5 lbs grain, about a gallon and a half of spring water). Then I mashed at 155F for an hour. Now I don't have a proper mash tun, so I was doing this in a kitchen pot. Sparging by proper batch or fly sparge methods probably wasn't an option, so I decided to wing it. I used a strainer to strain about half the wort/grain mix into the main boil pot, and kind of "sparge/rinsed" with 168F water through the strainer. Then I did the same with the rest of the grains/wort.

    Now I'm open to ridicule on this one, as I already admitted that I pulled this one completely out of my ass at the last possible minute, and forgot my usual checklist in the process. So fire away...

    However. HOWEVER. There might be light at the end of the tunnel.

    I got to the end and checked the OG and it was only 1.030. That's pretty damn high for almost four gallons of mash out of 5 lbs of grain, isn't it? OG was supposed to be 1.058. This must mean my mash was pretty efficient. Imagine if I had been doing it "the right way" in the first place!

    Anyway, to fix it I'm boiling the DME in a little more than a gallon of water, cooling it, then I'll add it to the already chilled main wort. Shouldn't be a huge tragedy and I don't see why this beer would be "ruined."

    But I did learn a lesson today.

    Follow your own friggin' procedure, including "make a checklist" if that's part of your procedure. :sunglasses:

    Post your screw ups, and what you learned from there here!

    :grinning:
     
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  2. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    If you don't brew at your own house and you use a chest freezer with a temperature controller, make sure the temperature probe is inside of the chest freezer every time before you leave the home brewery. If not you could easily end up freezing your carboys or nearly boiling them depending on the season :slight_smile:
     
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  3. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    Freezer chest w/a two stage controller. Oh crap I forgot about this.

    I plugged the blacked out light bulb for heating without telling the controller to switch from cooling to heating. Luckily I caught it in time.

    What did I learn? :astonished: I'm a dumb-shit. But what else is new.
     
  4. jlpred55

    jlpred55 Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2006 Iowa

    Always label your stored yeast or you might end up pitching wy3068 into a robust porter or 3522 into an APA.
     
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  5. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    My biggest screw up was adding yeast to the wrong fermenter. I was brewing two batches in one day. So my dubbel got the Westmalle strain and the Chico strain. I didn't have any extra yeast, to pitch into my IPA, so I went to the LHBS, which only does dry yeast. For reasons that are too long to go into, I picked a Nottingham and a Windsor packet and pitched these into my IPA.

    I learned that blending yeasts can yield positive results. OK. Not really a big surprise, but I had never blended yeasts before. The dubbel was less phenolic than it might have been. The fruity Windsor character was but more subdued. Both beers turned out fine.

    And I guess I should say that I learned that its not a bad idea to keep dry yeast around. But I usually don't have any, so maybe I never really learned that lesson
     
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  6. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    if youre going to brew outside - maybe dont use the garden hose for your water source. unless you like your beers tasting like garden hose. ugh.
     
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  7. AlCaponeJunior

    AlCaponeJunior Grand Pooh-Bah (3,452) May 21, 2010 Texas
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    Oops EDIT on the OP "4 gallons of mash" actually means "4 gallons of post-boiled wort" (without the DME). From the mash I got about 1.25 gallons, as I started with 1.5ish gallons and the grains absorbed some of the water.

    Final gravity after fixing the problem was 1.052
     
  8. gmfessen

    gmfessen Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2006 Michigan

    Looking for a strong carbonation via adding extra priming sugar = hand grenades....
     
  9. gmfessen

    gmfessen Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2006 Michigan

    Brews to be aged for over a year should be kept in glass carboys, not plastic buckets.... they have a tendency to fail over time....
     
  10. gtermi

    gtermi Initiate (0) Apr 21, 2010 Texas

    I have learned to never use a cheap piece of junk electric thermometer. I thought I was mashing at 155, but I was actually mashing at 120 because it was reading wrong. I always double check the temp of the mash and sparge water.
     
  11. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    recipes that call for Whirfloc don't call for you to dump the entire back in the boil.
     
  12. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    The entire ... bottle? Doesn't the label say 1 tablet per 5 gallons?
     
  13. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    My lesson learned, don't brew the day after daylight savings time begins if you have somewhere to go. I lost an hour of my planned brew day because I forgot to set my clock ahead in my brewing area. In trying to rush I pitched my yeast at 90* hoping for the best... I didn't get the best. Fusel alcohols galore.
     
  14. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    Failing to be prepared to manage fermentation, and having a batch really take off unexpectedly. It was the first time I pitched onto a yeast cake from a previous batch. Blew off the bucket lid, made a huge mess, and the fermenting wort was way too warm.

    Not an award winner, but at least I was able to drink the final result.
     
  15. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

    First brew ever, I left the steeping grains in during the entire 60 minute boil. There was absolutely no discernible tannin extraction.
     
  16. mattvaletudo

    mattvaletudo Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Illinois

    used a 5 gallon carboy which did not have enough room for fermentation so it boiled over like crazy
     
  17. jivex5k

    jivex5k Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2011 Florida

    Make sure you don't pump the auto-siphon too hard.
    I did this once and the siphon blasted itself out of my fermenter getting a lovely pitch black wort all over my kitchen.

    Make sure you stir up your priming solution well enough or you get bombs and duds. Never had a bomb yet but about 6 beers out of my last batch were flat.
     
  18. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Daylight savings aside, another take on the lesson to be learned is to delay pitching until your wort is down to temp, even if it means waiting a few extra hours, or even overnight.

    When I make lagers, I want to start with the temp south of 50F. I'll chill with an immersion chiller until I reach tapwater temp, which is still ~15 degrees too high to pitch. I transfer to the fermenter, cover it, and stick the fermenter in the fidge until it cools to pitching temp. Then I pitch. This is typically 8 or so hours later.

    The point is, I think we fear infection so badly that it makes us do things like pitch yeast in haste, when in reality, the danger of infection of post-boil wort that is sitting around for a while is pretty minimal, assuming proper sanitation and precaution is taken.
     
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  19. MLucky

    MLucky Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2010 California

    Arg! I did that once!

    One time I needed to do a really big starter for lager I had planned. It was going to be too big for the flask I usually use, and I thought that rather than do a step starter it might be easier to just make a big simple starter in sanitized carboy, let it ferment out, then pour the wort in over the cake. So I made the starter, let it ferment, so far so good. Then I decided to cold crash it in the chest freezer that serves as my kegerator. I had to move some stuff around in there to make room, and I set the temperature probe off the side while I was doing it... then forgot to put it back in. Yep... froze the starter solid and wasted about 600 billion cells of WLP 830. Also froze the cornie keg that was in there, though the beer wasn't too bad once I got unfrozen and recarbed. Had to start all over again with the starter, which meant I couldn't brew that weekend, which meant it had to wait three weeks. It sucked!

    So yeah, today's pro tip: keep your temp probe *inside* the freezer.
     
  20. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Don't brew during a heat wave when your chest freezer/ferm chamber and second fridge are both full of kegs. Its been a nightmare trying to play musical refrigerator with 8 full corny's, six ferementers and 99 degree weather in a 1910's craftsman house with no central cooling (e.g. a 90+ degree ambient).
     
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