Preferred method for soaking oak cubes

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  1. AlexHouston

    AlexHouston Crusader (438) May 19, 2011 Illinois
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    I'm going to be brewing a nut brown from an extract batch to celebrate moving into a new place and I'm wondering what success you guys have had with soaking oak cubes and other items before adding them to your brews. My line of reasoning was to soak the remaining cubes in some leftover whiskey I liked, in addition to part of some vanilla and then add those to the secondary. I guess I wonder if there's a big sanitary issue there or if the addition of alcohol makes it less likely that some contamination will happen. How long should the soaking occur? A week? A month?
     
  2. johnnnniee

    johnnnniee Grand Pooh-Bah (4,868) Feb 28, 2007 New Hampshire
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    Soaking the wood in whiskey for a few days will likely kill off anything that would live in it. I've had lots of luck using this method and adding to the secondary. In fact I've got some chips that have been in rum for 6 months waiting for me to get brewing. I usually take a sample about once a week after adding the wood until I find its where I want it to be. I'm not sure I'd oak a nut brown, but its your beer enjoy.
     
  3. skiofpinsk

    skiofpinsk Initiate (0) Jun 18, 2008 Pennsylvania

    As johnnnniee said, the alcohol should kill off any bugs within a short period of time. As for a length of time to keep the cubes in the beer, this is really up to you. Tasting at regular intervals is the best way. It would also depend on what amount of cubes you're adding.
     
  4. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    The alcohol in the whiskey will only kill the bugs as deeply as it soaks into the wood. I would recommend either boiling them or putting them in the microwave long enough to finish the job.
     
  5. AlexHouston

    AlexHouston Crusader (438) May 19, 2011 Illinois
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    Good advice all around. I think I'll add them this weekend and see how far it's coming along as the days progress. Didn't even think to do that. You're right, that it's unusual to oak age a brown, but then again, who knows what the result is unless you try, right?
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I've never heard anyone recommend microwaving them. It's an interesting idea. I've had lots of luck with vodka and I would recommend baking them over anything else. It's hot and doesn't add that funny flavor I tend to get when I microwave food :slight_smile:
     
  7. johnnnniee

    johnnnniee Grand Pooh-Bah (4,868) Feb 28, 2007 New Hampshire
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    Wood is pretty porous, I would imagine as long as you gave it enough time the spirit would get the wood soaked throughout. It certainly wouldn't hurt in the least to boil or microwave them just to be sure though. I once baked an oak dowel in the oven at 300 for an hour before I stuck it into the opening of my carboy. This has the added benefit of drying the crap out of the wood so it will soak up liquid like a sponge. Of course if you take that dry dowel and get it snug to the carboy lip you will be buying a new carboy like I did. :wink:
     
  8. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    Boil the chip for 10 minute and you are good to go.
     
  9. deadonhisfeet

    deadonhisfeet Pooh-Bah (2,481) Apr 23, 2011 Kentucky
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    I'm not a homebrewer, but since you're discussing the use of oak cubes in homebrewing, I have a question. Do you burn your oak cubes on an open flame before using them? I would think this would help you to impart certain flavor characteristics to your beer (assuming that is what you are using them for). After all, when bourbon is made, the insides of the (oak) barrels are charred first in order to caramelize the wood. This is what ultimately imparts both the color and the faint vanilla-like sweetness to the contents.

    Just wondering.
     
  10. johnnnniee

    johnnnniee Grand Pooh-Bah (4,868) Feb 28, 2007 New Hampshire
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    When you buy oak chips or cubes from the home brew store they are sold with a certain level of char or toast to them, so unless you are using raw wood you don't need to burn the wood.
     
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