Pretty Things Jack D'Or

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by astroevan, Jul 29, 2018.

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  1. astroevan

    astroevan Aspirant (296) Apr 9, 2008 Virginia

    Found a bottle shop in NC on a road trip today and bought a bottle of Jack D'Or by Pretty Things Beer and Ale Project. I was a big fan of Pretty Things before I left RI in 2013 - the Once Upon A Time series was phenomenal - and heard that they had shut their doors in 2015. I'm pretty sure that I just bought a 3-year old saison for nostalgia's sake, but I wanted to check to see if anyone else has seen any bottles lately... or if they've all been hiding out in NC.
     
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  2. bleakies

    bleakies Maven (1,355) Apr 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    I'm sure there are some odd bottles stuck away in odd shops but I haven't seen one for a couple of years now. I still have a few bottles of their big stouts (Barbapapa and Fumapapa) in the fridge as well as a last bottle of their barleywine. I wouldn't have the highest hopes for a three-year-old Jack D'Or but I'd like to hear how it's held up, or hasn't. For science.

    They were absolutely my favorite brewery and I miss them.
     
  3. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    Please report back. I'm curious.

    I still have half a case of OFR. Had one a few weeks ago and it is still amazing Really leaning intointo tobacco notes I age barleywines for.
     
  4. TheMattJones88

    TheMattJones88 Maven (1,372) Sep 12, 2009 Massachusetts
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    I know of a place with a few rogue Jack D'Or bottles, please report back, I'd love to have to go buy them if they're good.
     
  5. rdecker679

    rdecker679 Devotee (305) Oct 8, 2015 Massachusetts

    I had my final bottle last weekend, coincidentally. I was holding onto it for nostalgia's sake, but figured that had gone on long enough. It's been in the back of a fridge since early 2015, and surprisingly wasn't half bad. It was lacking any real punch of flavor, pretty mellow across the board, but figuring it would be nothing after so long, I was happy with what was left.

    I would like to know what one of similar age is like if it wasn't stored in a fridge that whole time.
     
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  6. TheMattJones88

    TheMattJones88 Maven (1,372) Sep 12, 2009 Massachusetts
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    The place I know that has it has two bottles that have been on warm shelves, still charging $8 a pop for them too.
     
  7. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    As a measure of how good or not good it was.. Would you buy one, full price, if you saw it in the wild?
     
  8. rdecker679

    rdecker679 Devotee (305) Oct 8, 2015 Massachusetts

    If current full price is $8? Yeah, for sure. Part of that is again, the nostalgia.
    Take that away, and I'd still pay maybe $6 for it.
     
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  9. SunDevilBeer

    SunDevilBeer Pooh-Bah (1,945) May 9, 2003 Massachusetts
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    In retrospect PT got out right before the death of the bomber. Good for them - tho I’m sure they could see the writing on the wall.

    That said I’d usually splurge for a PT Jack D’or once a month or so. Good beer.
     
  10. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    Brewing where they were I don't feel like PT cans or bottled four packs weren't an option. They had made a decision based on...something.
     
  11. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Pooh-Bah (2,275) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    Tangentially related, but does anyone know what's going on with Pretty Things's former owners/creators and the project they were supposed to be doing in England? I could only find this article as the most recent.
     
  12. Aaron58

    Aaron58 Zealot (641) Dec 16, 2007 Massachusetts

    Just imagine how well PT Jack/meadowlark/magnifico 4pk 16oz cans would be doing right now? or a PT tap room?!?
     
  13. Lupin

    Lupin Pundit (894) Jun 4, 2006 Connecticut
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    Their new brewery in Sheffield, England was incorporated last year but is not yet brewing.
     
  14. huuvola

    huuvola Zealot (715) Oct 29, 2005 Massachusetts

  15. astroevan

    astroevan Aspirant (296) Apr 9, 2008 Virginia

    Well, the wife and I drank the Jack D’Or and the nostalgia was the best part. The beer wasn’t bad, but it certainly wasn’t the top quality saison that it once was. The peppery esters typical of a saison were reduced to essence and the flavor was overly sweet. I’m glad we got it, but would have to pass if I see it again.
     
  16. rdecker679

    rdecker679 Devotee (305) Oct 8, 2015 Massachusetts

    Can someone with more experience than me confirm if the possible heat + time this bottle may have endured would allow more sugars to develop vs mine kept in a fridge? Because I wouldn't have said mine was that much sweeter than it typically was, just everything was a little muted.
     
  17. Stormfield

    Stormfield Savant (1,065) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    I remember Jason Alstrom posting that he liked Jack D’or very much, but that the beer didn’t shelf for very long, so I’m not surprised that it wasn’t great.
     
  18. LeRose

    LeRose Grand Pooh-Bah (4,423) Nov 24, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I have a bottle or Jack D'Or as well as several of their big stouts, so this has been a good read. I have no idea how long I've had the bottle of Jack...maybe I should get to it one of these days.
     
  19. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    I honestly have no idea how they'd do. I could maybe see Jack doing well being a saison, and those seem to do ok in the market. And the tap room could definitely be successful, depending on set-up, location...etc.

    But I could easily see Meadowlark just getting lost in the sea of IPAs, especially considering it wasn't a New England IPA.
     
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  20. Stormfield

    Stormfield Savant (1,065) Feb 21, 2011 Massachusetts

    The stouts and barley wine should be fine though. Last winter, I opened a bottle of ‘Our Finest Regards’ from 2011, batch #1 I think, and it was phenomenal. I never had an old Jack D, so I can’t offer an opinion on that one.

    Instead of Jack in the last couple of years, I’ve enjoyed Mystic saisons a great deal. They are pretty special IMHO.
     
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