Previous top 250 beers

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  1. Benish

    Benish Meyvn (1,171) Mar 13, 2013 Wisconsin
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    I have always been curious what was the number one beer before HT took its place. Not only that, I would love to see what the top 250 beers were 5 years ago or even 10 years ago, just for kicks. I tried finding this but with no luck.

    Does anybody have any memory of what were the top beers years ago or even if there is an accessible list of previous top 250 beers?
     
  2. Ilovelampandbeer

    Ilovelampandbeer Initiate (0) Aug 25, 2013 New York

    Good post...i read somewhere that DFH 90 min was up there on the list years back
     
  3. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa

    I agree that a historical Top 20 at least would be sweet. Would rule to see year by year top beer rankings!
     
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  4. Benish

    Benish Meyvn (1,171) Mar 13, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Maybe a BA staff will have an answer to this question?
     
  5. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    More often than not, it was westy 12

    Dark Lord was #2
     
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  6. sjstraub

    sjstraub Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2006 Wisconsin

    I've been on BA for 7 years lurked for 2-3 before that. When I first joined Westy 12 was the top beer. I seem to remember saving/printing top 100 lists when I went to beligum as list of beers to get. I'll search some of my old spreadsheets and see if I have anything laying around.

    It got vastly changed around about 2 years ago when they re-did the formula.
     
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  7. LSUPT

    LSUPT Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2011 California

    This thread definitely happened before the site changed and all the old threads were lost. It was a spreadsheet from, at the time, the top 100 from 5 years prior. Hopefully the right person sees this and still has it stored somewhere, but I think a lot of those informative fellows are no longer here, sadly.

    Westy XII and pliny definitely still at the top, but I remember some weird stuff like Victory Storm King in the top 20.
     
  8. ThisWangsChung

    ThisWangsChung Poo-Bah (3,142) Oct 15, 2011 Maryland
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    Storm King was way up there back in the day.

    It's still up there in my mind... :slight_frown:
     
  9. Benish

    Benish Meyvn (1,171) Mar 13, 2013 Wisconsin
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    Wow, Storm King? I would not have guessed that. I have never tried it, but still would not have guessed that.
     
  10. Treyliff

    Treyliff Poo-Bah (4,575) Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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    The only thing I remember from about 3 years ago when I joined was Westy 12 being #1.
     
  11. gcamparone

    gcamparone Poo-Bah (1,724) Dec 6, 2011 Rhode Island

    Someone posted a link of the top 100 from 5-10 years ago and it was really interesting. did anyone bookmark it? I think storm king was #1
     
  12. ChanceK

    ChanceK Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2012 Texas
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    I know a saw someone posted an archive link not long ago and the Top 10 was dominated by Quads (the big 3) and stouts. Only 1 or 2 DIPAs on the list I saw.
     
  13. shirtless_mike

    shirtless_mike Zealot (539) Aug 4, 2010 Indiana
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    wait, so people used to be into beers that didn't touch bourbon barrels or were widely distributed and not available on only one day of the year? i dont believe it
     
  14. shirtless_mike

    shirtless_mike Zealot (539) Aug 4, 2010 Indiana
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    Storm King is a helluva beer. especially at the price point. i do miss the 6 packs though
     
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  15. jordanimal

    jordanimal Aspirant (293) Sep 29, 2013 Ohio
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    I believe the list looked a lot more akin to ratebeer's top 50?
     
  16. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,914) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I believe Westvleteren 12 and Pliny (Elder or Younger, can't recall) used to bounce back and forth quite a bit. Also, I think the top 250 is somewhat new; before that I think it was the top 100.

    It's hard to imagine Dark Lord ever being #1; I wouldn't even put that beer in the top 250 beers from the Midwest.
     
  17. TheBungyo

    TheBungyo Champion (810) Dec 1, 2004 Washington

    Masala Mama was the #1 IPA for quite a while.
     
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  18. uglypirate

    uglypirate Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2013 Tennessee

  19. ChanceK

    ChanceK Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2012 Texas
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    When I look at ratebeer top 50 they tend to align much more with my taste.
     
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  20. Treyliff

    Treyliff Poo-Bah (4,575) Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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  21. Treyliff

    Treyliff Poo-Bah (4,575) Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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    Seeing that page from 2003 makes me miss the 'mug club' karma system.

    Also funny that Pliny the Elder had 5 total reviews.
     
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  22. Dope

    Dope Poo-Bah (2,868) Oct 5, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Oh man, I forgot all about the letter grades. I miss those!

    Dope
     
  23. anglagard1

    anglagard1 Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2010 Wisconsin

  24. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Initiate (117) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    It was pretty sweet when at least 50% of the top 100 were easily attainable. BAs seem to have picked up a taste for rarity and hype.

    I hope it swings back.
     
  25. Frankinstiener

    Frankinstiener Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2009 Illinois

    Many of them weren't as attainable when they were in the top 100 then when they became more widely available they dropped out.
     
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  26. DrewLikesBeer

    DrewLikesBeer Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2013 Florida

    there goes my input. there's more than a few factors that blend in to how beers rise and fall on the BA rankings...one of the big ones is of course scarcity. say what you will, but if HT was at every gas station across America it wouldn't be ranked #1 (though i'd be living in nirvana). look at how fast Westy dropped once it hit the US distro last year. i remember seeing ratings where the preface was "i'm not really into quads but i had to try the #1 beer in the world..."
     
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  27. PA-Michigander

    PA-Michigander Meyvn (1,468) Nov 10, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    It is funny when I still see letter grades in bottle shops.
     
  28. Knapp85

    Knapp85 Poo-Bah (8,735) Dec 25, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    This is fantastic, definitely enjoyable to see how things have changed for better or worse. The vintage lists are awesome to look back on for sure. Thanks for the post!
     
  29. HuskyinPDX

    HuskyinPDX Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2011 Washington

    That 2010 list brings me back. Good list.
     
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  30. Rollzroyce21

    Rollzroyce21 Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2009 California

    Me too. That list was when I put my hunting gear on.
     
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  31. VictorWisc

    VictorWisc Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2013 Massachusetts

    No, they weren't. Both floated near the top in the past decade, much of it due to rarity, not taste.
     
  32. His_Royal_Hoppiness

    His_Royal_Hoppiness Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2012 England

    Note in the right-hand column how Speedway is about to burst onto the scene as the new number 1...
     
  33. fredmugs

    fredmugs Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2012 Indiana
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    You might have 7 years ago when it was one of the biggest, baddest stouts out there. It's like comparing LeBron James to Dr J. Three Floyds makes better stouts than Dark Lord now.
     
  34. grynder33

    grynder33 Initiate (0) Jul 31, 2003 Wisconsin

    I remember Stone RIS number 1 for a while
     
  35. Hendrick24

    Hendrick24 Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Wisconsin

    The first time I loaded that list (2004-2005ish?), Celebrator Doppelbock was #1. And deservingly so.

    Edit: Just looked at the screen captures, guess it was early 2000's.
     
  36. tmm313

    tmm313 Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2011 Georgia

    I had no idea Storm King was such a big deal early on! I've never tried it, but have one waiting in my fridge as we speak. Its not even in the top 250 today.
     
  37. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Initiate (117) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    That's definitely a fair point. I do remember a time when I had tried probably 40 of the top 100 when I lived in AZ. This was probably 2007 or 2008.
     
  38. draheim

    draheim Poo-Bah (2,914) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    I'll just assume it's gotten worse since it was first introduced. Big/bad notwithstanding, the bottle I had (2010 or 2011) was a foul, nearly undrinkable mess of a beer. There aren't too many beers on the top 250 that I can't understand why they're rated so highly, even if I personally don't like them very much. But Dark Lord is definitely one of them.
     
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  39. VictorWisc

    VictorWisc Initiate (0) Jan 2, 2013 Massachusetts

    Before that, it was Victory Hop Devil.
     
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