Pumpkin sour

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  1. calir1

    calir1 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2004 Maryland

    So I plan on doing a 10 gallon pumpkin and souring half of it. Will this be “possible” with the hop additions? I plan on being in the 20-30 IBU range and using a 3rd gen sour yeast. The grain bill will be with 6 row and the rest much like a dubbel recipe with 30 oz of canned pumpkin and spices.

    Basically will the hops kill the sour or should I be good?

    Thanks.
     
  2. InVinoVeritas

    InVinoVeritas Initiate (0) Apr 16, 2012 Wisconsin

    The sour pros will speak up, but I believe even tolerant bacteria quits at like 10 IBUs. I would splite the batch pre-boil and do two boils with two different hop schedules. 20 to 30 IBUs schedule for pumpkin and under 10 IBUs schedule for sour.
     
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  3. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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    20-30 IBU would definitely inhibit lacto/bacteria growth for a sour. You could collect your wort, sour it pre-boil, then do a full 60 min boil and add your hop additions to achieve 20-30 IBU. Then, you can add your cinnamon, nutmeg, all spice at flameout. From my experience, pumpkin in the mash doesn’t contribute much ‘pumpkin’ flavor. It’s more from the spices. You could technically do a sour pumpkin beer with out adding any pumpkin at all, but if you’re set on using pumpkin, that shouldn’t hurt the lacto souring pre-boil.
     
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  4. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    As @InVinoVeritas and @Lukass have suggested the hops will hurt you, and you've got to separate the batches. Everything else that's been said is true as well. There are many ways to do it, and I'm sure you'll figure it out, you really just need two kettles.

    What exactly is your third generation sour yeast?

    By the way, of all of the pumpkin beers I've tasted it was the sour ones that I've liked the best (but I'm a sour fan to begin with), and I'm actually planning this exact same thing except that mine will be more golden and done as a kettle sour with yogurt, and I'll sour the entire batch.
     
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  5. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Initiate (0) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania

    IMO, well attenuated and sour with pumpkin spices isn't a good flavor profile, but you do have some options available to you if you just want sour and pumpkin spice.

    Are you just looking for something to do with the extra 5 gallons or do you have your heart set on making a sour pumpkin beer?
     
  6. calir1

    calir1 Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2004 Maryland

    Nope. I just figure if I going to make a batch of beer I will do 10 gallons. I don’t want 10 gallons of pumpkin and me and my neighbor love sours so I figure we just do the other half as a sour or at least try. Sounds like I’ll split the run off and do two boils.

    The third gen yeast is a mix of 3278/bug county ECY20/dregs of Modern Times 1500/Consecration that is fermenting some sour blondes at the moment.

     
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