Question from the semi newbie

When you add the hops and how much you add will impact both bitterness and aroma. Good chance you just changed the flavor, but it'll still taste fine, just different. Sorry, read a couple times and still not understanding the baseline of hop additions vs. what you did to give you a less generlized answer. Can you put both in list form? When you add hops won't chance ABV, that's a function of your grains since that's where the fermentable sugars come from.

 

I'm new to this too, but it'll probably be fine. Cascade is a relatively low AA hop, so it probably won't make a ton of difference. You'll probably lose a little flavor and aroma, but stop by the LHBS and pick up another oz or two to dry hop with 5-7 days before bottling and you'll get some of it back probably.

 

It' might taste under-hopped. But it's your 2nd batch, so it wasn't going to be perfect anyway. My 2nd batch needed more hops. It's tasty. But I know for next time. Keep notes, learn from it, improve. Nothing else you can really do. It'll probably be alright, but you'll know it could be better. But you might think it's perfect.

 

Ok, so you added an extra 1 oz of Columbus, but that was to plan, correct? If all we're talking about that was out of plan is that you added 1 oz Cascade at the beginning and 1.5 oz Cascade at the end, as opposed to the reverse, 1.5 oz Cascade at beginning and 1 oz Cascade at the end. You're trading bitterness for aroma. For the bitterness, making a couple assumptions, you're going to be about 9 IBUs lower, which really isn't a lot . . . hell could likely make that much of a change from having a stronger boil. Don't worry, you'll be A-ok.

 

Yeah, my first couple of extract batches weren't as hoppy as I'd have liked. This phenomenon repeated itself when I switched to all grain (for some reason). I guess I was figuring that (aside from the numbers) hops in general were more intensely flavored, and the exact additions you made caused large swings in your finished beer's characteristics. Turns out mostly this is not true. 4 oz of fuggles or 5 oz of fuggles on mostly the same schedule, and it would be hard to tell the difference. My first all grain was a smash and I only used 2.5 oz of willamette. Not enough. It was sub-prime because it wasn't hoppy enough, it was all malt (but it was still quite drinkable, and I was happy with it anyway. When it's your first beer <or first all grain beer>, you're just happy to have it come out drinkable).

Same thing will happen with OP's beer. It will not be quite exactly what it was supposed to be, but it's likely many of us couldn't tell the difference in a blind taste test anyway. So no worries. You could take 5 oz total of three kinds of hops, make 47 different hops schedules, and all would probably be fine*.

Certain hops, like citra, do have very strong flavors, and should be added cautiously and with more thought. But cascade, willamette, fuggles, NB, heck, about any fairly standard hops can be added considerably more generously that I first thought when I was new at brewing. After all, It's homebrew. For most of us, no two are the same, and for me, I don't want repeats unless I'm doing it on purpose. I like the variety, and to some extent, I also like the uncertainty. So if I put too little or too much hops in a batch, I just change what that batch was supposed to be...

"Oh yeah, that's my new hoppy wheat beer. I don't really care for hoppy wheats that much, but I spilled half a pound of simcoe into the boil pot when I was making a wheat beer, so now it's "hoppy wheat."

*as long as your 60 minute/bittering additions weren't too ridiculously high. Obviously "dump it all in there at 60" wouldn't taste the same as "put it alll in at flameout. But any reasonable hops schedule is probably perfectly fine. You can haggle over "optimal" hops schedules, but a "good enough" hops schedule doesn't require much, other than making sure you get some hops in there.
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By flip flopping your first and last cascade additions, you got less bitterness, but more flavor/aroma.

 

Without knowing the recipe and AA's of the hops this is just an estimate. But you probably gained around 10 ibu's. You will probably end up around 90 ibu's instead of 80. Your Ipa will be hoppy but should turn out ok.

Edit: I only accounted for 1oz of Columbus with 15 minutes left not sure if you added the 2nd oz also.

 

Just an fyi, your 2nd post was clear(sort of), but general convention is to list hop additions as "minutes remaining", not "minutes from start".

A 60 min addition is at the start(ish, I do lots of 90 min boils) of the boil and a 0 minute addition at flame out.

 

The short answer is the beer will be fine.

For a more interesting and detailed answer, I would suggest using one of the readily available online recipe calculators. I think you'll find it interesting to use the calculator to feed in the original recipe and then feed in the changes you made and see how these kinds of variables impact IBUs and whatnot. I think the calculator at Brewer's Friend is free, although you can't save the recipe unless you "subscribe."

Flip flopping the 60 minute and 0 minute cascade additions, all things being equal, will give you more bitterness and less aroma. Adding nugget at 30 minutes, which I take was an adjustment to whatever recipe you were working from, will also up the bitterness, though it will give some flavor. If it was my beer, I would consider a couple ounces of cascade or something similar for dry hopping in order to bring out some more aroma. Cheers!

 

Doh. I totally misread the original post. You got more bitterness, and less flavor/aroma.

 

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