Questions about full boil extract brewing

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  1. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    I'm a noob brewer planning my first full boil this weekend for a brown ale. My plan is to steep in a small pot at 155 for 30 minutes and add it to the heating water in the boiling kettle. Planning on using 6.5 gallons total. The recipe calls for 4 lbs of DME and 3.5 lbs of LME, with hop additions at 60, 30 and 5. My questions:
    1. Does this seem reasonable?
    2. Do you keep the lid on the small pot with the steeping grains?
    3. In a full boil, does it matter when you add the extract? Should I add the DME early and the LME late?

    Many thanks for any advice. I'm learning a ton on these threads.
     
  2. JoeSpartaNJ

    JoeSpartaNJ Zealot (691) Feb 5, 2008 New Jersey

    If doing a full boil, I would add all extract at the beginning of boil.

    Without seeing the actual recipe and hop types and amounts, hard to tell if it is reasonable.

    I don't brew with extract anymore, but I always kept the lid on when steeping grains to help the water warm up.
     
  3. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Why are you planning to steep in a separate pot? You can do it in the main boil kettle, and the temperature of the larger volume of water will be more stable.
     
  4. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    ^^^ I have read that you should limit the amount of water for steeping to less than 1 gal per lb in order to keep the pH in a good range. What do you think?
     
  5. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Depends on the water and the grains, but I'd say it's not usually important for these reasons...
    - grains suitable for steeping will typically limit the pH, even with a full volume of H20, with most reasonable water
    - steeping temperatures are not very conducive to extraction of tannins (which is the reason pH is sometimes cited as being important in steeping). IOW, you need high pH and high temps to get excessive tannins.

    If you have very alkaline water and are steeping only grains without much acidity (Carapils for example), it might be worth worrying about. But even then, the steeping temps will tend to limit tannins anyway.
     
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  6. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    I'm planning on using 1/2 Crystal 20L, 1/2 Chocolate malt. I'll take your advice and keep it simple. Much appreciated.
     
  7. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'll add this tip: when adding your LME, kill the flame and mix that stuff in very well. Otherwise it sits on the bottom and gets scorched when you light the flame again.
     
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  8. GavinHarper

    GavinHarper Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2014 California

    good advice from VikeMan and Mothergoose. I would kill the flame when adding any of the extract to reduce your chance of boil over and mix well. Adding the extract later in the boil helps keep the color lighter, but it looks like your making something in the medium brown color range so adding at the beginning of the boil won't change much.
     
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