Quick Berlinerweisse Question

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  1. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Going to be brewing a Berlinerweisse tomorrow unexpectedly...should I take the WY-5335 out of the frig tonight and make a lacto starter with a leftover 1/2 gal of wort (last runnings) from an Old Ale I made on New Year's Eve? Plan on pitching the yeast in another 2 days. TIA.
     
  2. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    It may not help a lot but certainly won't hurt. Why not?
     
  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    OK...that's what I was thinking too...what the hell.
     
  4. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I was always wondering if you'd change the ratio of bugs to yeast this way. One HAS to grow faster than the other. On the flipside, I think one would probably live longer than the other too. I hope someone will shed some light on this, as I don't think I'd ever consider making a starter for a blend.
     
  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    That's the point...I'm trying to up the ratio of Lacto to SC (this is NOT a blend at this point...all Lacto)
    I plan on pitching the Lacto about 48 hrs BEFORE the SC (BRY-97 with no starter)
     
  6. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I've grown lacto starters on pasteurized apple juice.
     
  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    With great success? :slight_smile:
     
  8. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Ive heard that the WY lacto only ferments glucose, which I believe is the big reason it generally doesnt make a very sour B-weiss, you might think of adding a bit of corn sugar to the beer to really feed the lacto and sour up the beer
     
  9. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    This is a very common approach to growing pure lacto cultures
     
  10. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    Yup. Ideally the temp would be ~100, I usually put it on/near a heating vent.
     
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  11. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    They say an oven with just the ovenlight turned on is quite nice for other foods, (buttermilk, creme fresche, sourdough).
     
  12. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    My current Berlinerweisse finished in just over 2 days due to the elevated temps (70*F) and low gravty. I am currently letting it sit on a brew belt at ~ 75*F to see if I can encourage the Lacto a bit. Ever had a Berlinerwisse with fusels? :slight_smile:
     
  13. skivtjerry

    skivtjerry Pooh-Bah (1,865) Mar 10, 2006 Vermont
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    I have not. I'd think that the low gravity would minimize production, and there's a chance the lacto would consume any fusels that the ale yeast did produce (if the ABV was sufficiently low).
     
  14. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Ramp it up to warp factor 9 (as high as a 25W brew belt will take it), Aye!? :slight_smile:
    ABV ~ 3.4%
     
  15. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    Have you tasted this one yet? How did it turn out?
     
  16. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I need to do a berliner soon... just haven't decided the best way to get a medium tartness beer without the risk of fecal weisse.
     
  17. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    It's still sitting at room temp, but when I kegged it, it was certainly more sour than the last one I brewed...will let you know for sure ~ June
     
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