Racking cane filter question

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  1. agsourdough1

    agsourdough1 Initiate (0) May 5, 2008 Florida

    Just wondering if people had cool techniques for filtering the beer post fermentation. I don't plan on racking for another couple of weeks, I'm just thinking ahead. Has anyone ever tried a piece of their wife's nylons around the bottling cane. I never did it,I just read that some where. I also saw someone using a 5 gal paint strainer in the bottling bucket. My other question is... Am I risking oxidation damage if I use these "tricks".
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I have used the nylons trick (though they were newly bought, not the wife's), and it works, if you can keep the material from getting sucked into the cane. But it's usually not necessary. If you rack carefully, especially with a racking cane that has a protective 'tip' at the bottom (like on an autosiphon), you can really minimize the amount of trub picked up. But no, adding any type of filter to the 'input' end of a cane/siphon shouldn't cause oxidation, assuming the beer is smoothly flowing when it exits the other end.
     
  3. Yosefus

    Yosefus Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2012 North Carolina

    You say the bottling cane, are you talking about the transfer from fermentor i> bottling bucket? If so, then nylons or fine mesh bags can work, but honestly just being careful and not disturbing your racking cane while it is transferring is the easiest thing to do. Keep your fermentor tilted so that the cane is at the lowest point.

    You would not risk oxidation if you did any of these tricks because the cane is submerged in your beer and has no contact with air in order to introduce any oxygen.
     
  4. agsourdough1

    agsourdough1 Initiate (0) May 5, 2008 Florida

    Sounds good, thanks
     
  5. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I have used a paint strainer bag over the racking cane for years. Oxygen? Where would the O2 come from on the cane side?
     
  6. agsourdough1

    agsourdough1 Initiate (0) May 5, 2008 Florida

    Not on the cane side, lining the bottling bucket. I thought pulling the mesh out of the bucket through the beer might aureate it.
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It would. You don't want any unnecessary agitation on the 'output' side of a racking.
     
  8. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    You could line the bottling bucket with a paint-strainer bag, but there would be no need to remove it from the bottling bucket until you were finished bottling. It seems to me that by doing this there would be no potential aeration issue.
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Well, you'd still be passing beer through the bag's holes in the open air (at the rising liguid to air boundary) as the bucket is being filled, which will cause some added aeration. I don't really have a sense for how much though.
     
  10. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    I use two 5 gal paint strainer bags on the end of the auto siphon for beers that are dry hopped. At first I was using one and it clogged on me one time. I started getting air bubbles in the tubing until I was able to get some of the hop material off the side of the bag. Since then I switched to two and have had no issues. For beers that aren't dry hopped I don't use them.

    A couple other tips for bottling.
    The day I bottle I will usually move the fermenter to where I am going to bottle a few hours ahead of time. This will give time for anything that got kicked up while moving the fermenter to settle back down to the bottom. I would like to leave it over night to settle but I don't trust my cats.

    I put a book under one end of the fermenter so it is slightly tilted. I then siphon on the side that is tilting downwards. This way I can get almost all of the beer and get very little of the yeast cake.

    Use a priming sugar calculator and weight your sugar.

    Have a few extra bottles and caps sanatized and ready. I have found cracks in bottles as I am getting ready to fill them.
     
  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I see where your concern is, and I have never done it that way. Use a sanitized 5 gallon nylon paint strainer bagon the cane to filter what is going into the cane, then you don't have to do anything on the outlet side. Well, except to avoid splashing, get the end of the tubing under beer ASAP.
     
  12. agsourdough1

    agsourdough1 Initiate (0) May 5, 2008 Florida

    Hopfenunmaltz and Vikeman, you guys have not steered me wrong yet so I'll do what you guys suggest. Thanks for all the feedback from everyone. I learn something every time I read these threads. Thanks again, and may all your brews be tasty.
     
  13. cfrobrew

    cfrobrew Initiate (0) Oct 9, 2012 Texas

    I usually sanitize a nylon grain bag to the side of the bottling bucket and stick the siphon out into that. They both go to the bottom of the bucket and it grabs a good amount. I did this last night when transferring a coffee stout that had coffee grounds in the secondary. I could see putting it on the other end might be better, but this is pretty easy as well.
     
  14. Bunuelian

    Bunuelian Pooh-Bah (1,836) Mar 22, 2013 Minnesota
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