Rant about Reviews

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Herky21, Jul 31, 2012.

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  1. Herky21

    Herky21 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2011 Iowa

    I don't want to complain, but for the good of BA I'm going to.

    If you're going to do a review of a beer, ESPECIALLY one with hops flavors and aromas like an IPA or a PA, don't buy a "close out" beer special. Obviously, if a beer is on closeout or on sale for some reason than it has been sitting around for a LONG while. Hop flavors and aromas continuously fade. Dry hopping, even after a month, is significantly less prominent. When you do a review and note that you got it on "close out" so the beer must be bad, you are only signifying that you don't quite understand beer.

    That's my rant. I appreciate what brewers do, but with so many small craft brewers and so much beer being distributed I'm sure the breweries can only buyback so much of their product. We, as a community, should realize that beer has a short shelf life in general. Don't tear a person's hard work a part because you don't quite get it.
     
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  2. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    So what is the time cut off? No reviews on hoppy beers unless they are less than one month old? One week?
     
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  3. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    If it's a Pliny review, anything older than 3 hours after being bottled is invalid.
     
  4. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2008 New York

    If you aren't drinking those IPAs straight from the brewery fermenter, they're basically shit. May as well drainpour all of them.
     
  5. KAF

    KAF Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2007 Iowa

    I do not rate, but if I did would like to think I would not rate a beer that is obviously infected or far past it's prime. That being said I can see some value in people doing so. I am one of those odd people who enjoy buying multiples of an IPA or IIPA and holding onto one to see how it holds up after six months to a year (as I said before I would not rate the aged version). Imo it is informative to see a review that notes a beer has been aged (whether appropriate to age or not) and then continues with the review so that others will know whether or not said beer ages well (I believe some IIPAs age well and some take on interesting notes/characteristics). However, I wish (maybe there is?) there was a way to not allow the rating of an over-aged (which is subjective to some degree) beer or infected beer to reflect on the score of the beer so as not to negatively impact the rating (however some beers when infected taste better than when they're uninfected). If the rating itself states that the beer was purchased from a bargain bin the review reader should simply place an asterisk in their mind noting the review is not typical and move on, but as I said earlier I do not think this rating should impact the score of the beer as the beer was drank in a condition not intended by the brewer (this probably happens often).
     
  6. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
    Pooh-Bah

    Best By date.
     
  7. acevenom

    acevenom Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2011 Louisiana

    This is generally a case where buyer needs to beware if they are purchasing beer styles that are best consumed fresh as possible. Older IPAs will lose their hop character over time. Euro lagers in green bottles are especially hard to judge, but I would say it's a good idea to buy them by the six pack because single green bottles sitting on shelves makes me too worried about light exposure. Of course, there's no telling what sort of conditions those imports have been through to get to American shelves. These are the sorts of things I try to keep in mind because I try to approach every beer I try with an open mind.
     
  8. ShanePB

    ShanePB Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Agreed. Or, if it's only a Bottled On date I'd say 3-4 months and you've lost what the brewer was going for, IMO.
     
  9. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I can fully agree if it is past the best before date it shouldn't be reviewed. Onto the 3-4 month stipulation, I dunno about that, I'd say if a brewer can't make a beer that is still drinkable after three months they should reevaluate what they are doing. Do many brewers set their best before date 3-4 months out from bottling?
     
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  10. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    Agreed. Or, if it's anything Three Floyds you're S.O.L.
     
  11. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    I'm partial to horse blanket and wet hay.
     
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  12. ShanePB

    ShanePB Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2010 Pennsylvania

    I guess I'm more referring to hoppy beers with that time frame. I can't recall a hop-centric or hop-forward beer I've come across that tastes the same fresh as it does 3-4 months down the road. That, to me, is not what the brewer intended.
     
  13. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
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    *is glad that he drinks beers other than IPA's*
     
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  14. Jparkanzky

    Jparkanzky Initiate (0) Apr 5, 2011 Ohio

  15. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    One month? Hell, that's ancient. Its 48 hours for most cask ales.
     
  16. quirkzoo

    quirkzoo Initiate (0) Jul 7, 2011 Colorado

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  17. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

  18. stupac2

    stupac2 Pooh-Bah (2,031) Feb 22, 2011 California
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    3-6 I think. And if a brewer doesn't give one, then review it whenever you like. If they don't care enough to tell you when it's too old, then you shouldn't care enough about their reputation to worry about reviewing old beer.
     
  19. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    Once tapped that is! But an unopened cask has a surprisingly long shelf life.
    Actually, it's often at its peak at 3 or 4 days (how often has the last pint been the best?) But I wouldn't review a beer which has been kept on too long; that's a reflection on the cellarman not the beer quality.
     
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  20. carteravebrew

    carteravebrew Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2010 Colorado

    All that, and he gave it a 4+
    Us BA's are into some weird shit when it comes to the funk.
     
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