Rare Hop Varietal Characteristics?

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  1. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Wondering if anyone has any experience with these rare hop varieties, and if so, what are they like:

    Cerera
    Tardif de Bourgone (French)
    Shinswanse (Japanese)
    Blisk

    A fellow home brewer has these varietals planted in his hop yard and I can get cuttings from him if I'd like. Thanks for the help.

    PS, please don't reply with a link to the Freshops Variety Descriptions, saying a hop is pleasant, or has a hoppy aroma is obsurd, that's like saying an IPA smells like beer, or hops, and that is about the extent of their descriptors for these hops.
     
    #1 jbakajust1, Mar 22, 2012
  2. aficionado

    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    Tardif de Bourgone (3 to 6 % AAU) is a Strisselspalt variety similar in character to Mt. Hood or Hallertau Hersbrucker. Typically used for aroma, it's a very low oil lager hop with very mild Noble, herbal, lemony, spicy black currant presence.

    Never heard of the others.
     
    #2 aficionado, Mar 22, 2012
  3. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Thanks for the feedback. So Tardif is a good hop for doing German Lagers, and Belgians (esp Saisons) then? If so, then that one is a for sure.
     
    #3 jbakajust1, Mar 22, 2012
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    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    A buddy of mine made a German pilsener with it as well as a few other hops. It was good.
     
    #4 aficionado, Mar 22, 2012
  5. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    Also, the Japanese is "Shinshuwase" hops if that helps.
     
    #5 jbakajust1, Mar 22, 2012
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    aficionado Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    This is the only useful information I could find on Shinshuwase via a google search:

    http://www.ars.usda.gov/SP2UserFiles/person/2450/hopcultivars/60042.html

    Very high cohumulone at 51%, while very low in everything else.

    I suggest visiting your friend, rubbing the hops between your hands, and smelling them to see if they are pleasant to you. If he lives to far, perhaps you can ask him to mail you a single cone of each varietal.
     
    #6 aficionado, Mar 22, 2012
  7. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Thanks for the link, that is the same thing Freshops has listed on their site as well, wish they would give some information on the aroma other than "considered to be an aroma hop".

    I will have to do this and see what comes of it. Thanks for the help.
     
    #7 jbakajust1, Mar 22, 2012
  8. JimmyTango

    JimmyTango Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 California

    Saw this thread after posting in the single hop one... What can one expect from a single hopped sorachi-ace brew. I've got some around and I'm not sure if I want to go APA, BPA, or Kolsch.

    I know they are supposed to be quite citrus in a lemmony way up front, but what about the rest? Fruity, grassy, spicy, floral, herby, or resinous (dank/ catty) layers?
     
    #8 JimmyTango, Mar 22, 2012
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