Received Infected Beer In Trade

I had that feeling on my devils teeth I traded for. 3 in one trade is a different story. I've traded beer that turned into an infection as well (hipster brunch) I traded for beer that turned into an infection bcbw and devils teeth) but 3 in one trade, that's another tier.

As beer advocates I think we want to make things right as well to have a happy trade. In my above mentioned there was no need to. I think this instance is a different beast though.

 

But yes getting an infected beer is a gamble we take. That I totally agree on.

 

It's possible, if they weren't frequently viewing MT thread. But I think most who buy from MT on this forum, check it out. I have seen quite a few people trying to unload it on the forums, and I believe most of them know the truth.

Sorry to hear. I guess it depended when the trade was done? Infection wasn't known till a few months later? (I think, it's been awhile). I believe you need to bring the empty bottle to MT to get a credit. I had bought several for some friends, and none mentioned about some being infected. Though one said the coconut was almost gone. But didn't request a refund.

 

A few weeks ago? Yikes. That's messed up. If your trader won't compensate you, then you should PM a MOD and consider changing the feedback...

 

With all due respect, this is exactly what I'm talking about in that where do we draw the line. You're advocating a complete reversal even though the trade was initiated properly, completed in good faith, and both parties left appropriate feedback to recognize that the trade was done as requested. Yes, one of the traders said they would send something more, but that has little to do with the initial trade having been completed properly and successfully.

Now, I'm not saying that both parties should be satisfied and move on with no additional compensation, but we cannot set a precedent that allows for someone to revise a trade a month later, demand more or replacement product, AND ruin someone's trading reputation without proof of malice or intent. Neither can we ask our team of moderators to be expected to act as a police force for something that they have not been asked to watch over and receive little to no compensation for, particularly when they are already taxed thin.

 

Sorry, I don't believe the other trader didn't know about the well known infected MP coconut. Unless he got a bottle randomly in an extra & traded it unaware of MT completely??? You didn't have to be a league member to know about the infection.

We all know many tried to unload Coffee & Prop '15 when it was starting to discuss that it was infected. This is nothing new.

I do remember when BCBCS '15 was discussed as some batches were infected, I went to ISO them and take a gamble. I got random PM's from people warning me " DON'T DO IT!". Even the trader warned me, and asked if I was okay with it. I gambled, and got burned, lol. It does show there are honest people out there, yes.

The trader should give time to compensate for the bottle, certainly. It concerns me that the OP says " The guy said he was going to make it right but disappeared and hasn't been on in two weeks." Does that sound like a sincere guy? Things happen sure, but that doesn't sound good.

In the thread about feedback, ,a bullet point states:

• What stood out about the trade? Were there any issues? You only have 140 characters to use, so make sure that you're feedback is honest, concise, and helpful to the trader and others. You can edit your feedback too.

Issue? I'd say yes, if the trader doesn't fix it.

I would be careful if a traders feedback shows " I received a well known infected bottle and did not receive compensation" Wouldn't you?


I don't know the answer, but it's worth discussing.


Unless it's buyer beware on every trade? Then I suppose the OP is screwed.

 

Would it be useful to make a thread about infected beers to consolidate all the known infected bottles in one place?

For instance, my cousin from Colorado sent me a weldwerks BAMA a few months ago. He just text me today saying that the brewer issued a statement about infected bottles
of BAMA, and offering refunds. I would have had no idea because I don't frequent the regional threads.

Maybe require people to post a link to a reputable source so the thread doesn't turn into accusations and rumor? It would be nice to have a consolidated spot, similar to the completed traded forum

Just a thought

 

This is another reason why replied in the trade thread. If someone posts an infected bottle for trade you can be sure that will bev commented on.

 

Like I posted earlier I was very aware that the beer was getting distro and very aware of the League(although not a member).

I hunted down a few bottles, drank them and enjoyed them. Had no idea there was an infection until this thread.

I agree that he probably did know, BUT you cannot say, "he had to know! String him up!!!!"

That's the risk and that's why you do your research. Personal responsibility.

 

How often to people send PMs to other trades about possible infected bottles posted FT or ISO? I ask because someone just posted a BAMA FT, which the brewer has acknowledged has possible infection issues. Do I PM the trader to let them know?

 

I've done this before & had one of two things happen: 1. radio silence & 2. a message back (usually polite) saying 'mind your own business'. So I don't bother anymore.

 

Sure, why not - PM. People on BA are arrogant guys compared to other trading forums. So don't expect a thank you. haha

I didn't say to hang the guy yet, but his lack of communication over the course of a few weeks...doesn't give him a reason to give him a benefit of the doubt.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this one my friend.


OP, do you have any progress on your reputable trader?

 

You're not going to edit it ?

In the thread about feedback, ,a bullet point states:

• What stood out about the trade? Were there any issues? You only have 140 characters to use, so make sure that you're feedback is honest, concise, and helpful to the trader and others. You can edit your feedback too.

 

So did you change the original feedback, or was what you left what you originally wrote? It sounds like you perhaps changed the feedback?

And it sounds like he made a mistake about which bottles he had - but I'm assuming that you accepted the trade as altered anyways, or did that happen after you agreed & shipped?

 

If the trader knows it bad then they are an asshole and should replace it. How can you prove that though unless they confess? It's bound to happen by accident in which case I think the receiver should just bite the bullet.

If I'm trading for an older beer that's why I always ask how they cellared it.

I have a DBH and I'm hearing about some random infections. If it's bad, so be it. The guy I got it from couldn't have known.