Recipe Help: Extract - Spiced IPA

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  1. Intrepped

    Intrepped Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Name: Beezlebub IPA
    Style: Red IPA
    Type: Extract
    Batch Size: 2.125 gallons
    OG: 1.064
    approximated FG: 1.012
    ABV: 6.7-6.9%
    IBU: about 65

    Grain Bill
    Pilsen Light - 3lbs
    Caramel (or Barley - looking for red colored beer) - 1/8lb
    Victory - 1/8lb

    Hops (pellets)
    0.5oz cluster and 0.5oz chinook at 40min
    0.25oz chinook at 10min
    0.25oz cluster at 5min
    0.25oz cluster and 0.25oz chinook dry hopped secondary fermenter

    Yeast
    Still looking - must be dry - Safbrew T-58? Looking for peppery flavor, avoiding citrus esters

    Additions to secondary (this is where it gets funky)
    McCormick Peppercorn Medley (black,white,pink pepper, allspice, coriander seeds) - 0.1 oz cracked not crushed
    1 or 2 cinnamon sticks

    Questions: Should I put the spices in with 5 minutes remaining in the boil instead of in the secondary? I want the aromas though which I'm afraid will be lost in the primary fermentation. Should I place the spices in later in secondary, say, 2-3 days before bottling where I will remove them?

    I also am having issues with the yeast to choose. I will not do liquid yeast. Spending $7 on yeast on a microbatch like this is just not going to happen. This is designed to be a test run. If I get dry, I can save it for a few weeks and use the rest in another microbatch like this.

    Also, I'm afraid adding caramel malts will be too fruity, so would barley be better? I don't however want it to be bitter and stout-like. But with such a small amount, 2.5% of the grain bill, is this a concern? Should I up the amount of victory or barley to 1/4lbs?

    Thanks for the advice and support!
     
  2. Intrepped

    Intrepped Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I also just recognized that rye may be more helpful than victory when it comes to a specialty grain (making it spicy rather than nutty). Thoughts on that?
     
    #2 Intrepped, Sep 9, 2015
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  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Ahhhh....caramel malts ARE usually barley. You must mean Black Barley. Most people would say caramel malts and fruitiness are 2 different things.

    For myself, I can't wait for the next batch of Celebration to see what spices SN is adding this year : )
     
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  4. Intrepped

    Intrepped Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2015 Pennsylvania

    Yes! Sorry, by "barley" I was referring to light roasted or black barley. I'm just concerned they will add too much coffee-like bitterness. But I'm equally as concerned that an 80L or 120L will provide too many unfermentable sugars leaving the beer sweet, where as I want it to be dry as the Sahara haha!
     
  5. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Tread lightly. I would say you'd be served well with one can of Briess Rye extract for your batch size, and let that be the extent of your fermentables. Don't bother getting any spice from the yeast, just use US05. I kinda like your hop choices, but you should double the late additions. I'm a big fan of making tinctures from spices and adding them at bottling.
     
  6. Intrepped

    Intrepped Initiate (0) Sep 9, 2015 Pennsylvania

    I've decided on manipulating my hop additions a little. Many more in the late stages and using a third hop (Columbus) as well. I've got it down pat but the IBU's are up to about 77. A little higher than I wanted but it'll work.
    How do you do the tinctures? I'd prefer not to interfere with the beer by adding additional alcohols.

    New hops for reference:

    Cluster 0.25 oz pre-wart
    Columbus 0.25 oz 60 min
    Chinook 0.25 oz 30 min
    Columbus 0.5 oz 5 min
    Cluster 0.5 oz 1 min
    Chinook 0.5 oz 1 min
    Cluster 0.25 oz dry hop
    Columbus 0.25 oz dry hop
    Chinook 0.25 oz dry hop
     
  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I don't want cinnamon in my IPA. Can you just put a cinnamon stick in your pint glass?
     
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  8. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    A properly made tincture shouldn't make that big of difference in final ABV.
     
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  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    When I read the title to this thread I figured 'spiced' meant hot spicy, not sweet spices.

    OP, it's your beer, but are you sure you want to do this? You've had a spiced IPA before and liked it? To me, the sweet spices would clash heavily with the hops, and this doesn't sound good to me. But I've never seen or had a spiced IPA to know for sure. Your sweet spices may be better saved for a winter warmer. Just my 2 cents.
     
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