Recommendation for blonde ale with oaks

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  1. Itaygiv

    Itaygiv Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2020

    First of all - im new at this hobby, so try to simplify as much as you can.
    So after a pretty succecfull first homebrewing, Im now looking forward to my next batch, and Ive thought about making a light blonde ale, very low sweetness, with medium bitterness and a dominant taste of burned american oak chips. So I read online and i saw heaps of types of blonde ales and Im really confused.

    which type of blonde ale is light, not very sweet? Im looking for a summer beer that would be light and easy to drink more than one. I know corona is lager but im looking for one that would reminde it.

    If my description isnt undestandable enough, im attaching a beer that i drank and im aiming to imitiate it.

    "This unfiltered, bottom fermented beer is made of 100% pure German barley malt. The hop used for this quality beer is imported from one of the world’s largest hop growing regions, the Hallertau, near Munich."

    Any help and ideas will be great!! cheers!
     
  2. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    First of all, welcome to the hobby! You will definitely have a mix of success and failure as you get going trying to do your own thing, so it helps to have a bit of a tough skin when asking for feedback. That being said...
    I don't know that I'd pair a blonde ale with oak aging, but you may have some success with a very light hand. A light, easy-drinker just doesn't tend to have the backbone to balance out the oak. However, if you want to brew a blonde ale that you can crush in the backyard, research brewing an American Blonde Ale. They're light, lowish in alcohol, don't require much in the way of ingredients, and will be much more drinkable than a Belgian Blonde Ale, which tend to be a bit sweeter and higher in alcohol.
     
  3. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    Also, read How to Brew by Palmer, everyone on this forum will tell you that. There is a free, older version online, or you can buy it. It is an invaluable tool.
    A great recipe to start with for an American Blonde Ale is in Brewing Classic Styles.
     
  4. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    You’ve pretty much written your recipe here. I’d go for something like this for a 5 gallon batch:

    8 to 10 lbs pils malt, with exact amount depending upon mash efficiency and desired initial gravity

    or

    6 lbs pils or very light dry malt extract.

    1 to 1.5 oz Hallertaur at beginning of boil.

    Chico yeast (us - 05, e.g.).

    Then do the oak chip thing. Somebody else will have to address this, as I’ve never used oak chips.

    Since you are going to oak this beer, I would recommend just using the malt extract, as any difference in extract and grain will be, l suspect, largely masked by the oak. I also don’t recommend any late hop additions, as they might clash with the oak. Good luck!

    Cheers!
     
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  5. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    welcome aboard.

    never made a blond ale but have oaked a burton ale. my burton is 9-10 abv with 10 -12 oz of hops. i would oak it with 3-4 oz of medium toasted oak.

    for a blond that i assume will be in the 4-6 abv range and probabaly lightly hopped .
    perhaps 1/2 to 1 oz of oak. for a few weeks. make sure you boil the wood chips for 5 minutes, then throw the water away. that will remove some tannins which you will not like in a light beer. then keg or bottle.

    do you have beers that have been oaked or other wood aged?
     
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  6. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    the only things I would add to what's been said, is that this is one of the few cases to actually consider a secondary fermenter (carboy / better bottle.)
    I would recommend, with a light flavored beer like this, go with a half-ounce of oak chips, and taste after a week or so.
    Something like this can easily get overpowered by the oak, whereas a bigger stout can take a ounce or more for several weeks for the oak to come through.
     
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  7. Itaygiv

    Itaygiv Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2020

    Thanks everybody for good and detailed answers really appreciate it!

    About the second fermantation, can you explain why do you reckon its needed?
     
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  8. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    i secondary whenever i am dry hopping adding fruit wood nibs or anything else. get beer off the yeast, and its in a sanitized new container.
     
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  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Thanks for asking :grinning:

    Guided by your post on home-toasting; recently made a small batch in the toaster oven. Little whittle sticks from home-grown white oak. Rested one week in a retro-60's IPA. Turned out to be the missing ingredient.
     
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  10. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    great how much oak did you add. glad the video helped.
     
  11. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    I wouldn't start packing thing u till you really get a handle on your process. With little experience there is a high likelyhood that something may taste off when you're finished. Adding one more step like aging on oak is just one more point where you can screw it up.
     
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  12. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    Building off of this, maybe an option would be to keep half of the blond as it is, and only oak half - obviously adjusting amounts to match.
    That would be a good way to see what oaking does to a given batch of beer, plus, if it doesn't work, you still have half the batch to drink.
     
  13. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    1 oz : 5 G
     
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  14. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    nice, just got a call for a blond or ipa so gonna have to try ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,with oak
     
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  15. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Be careful with oak chips, a little goes a long way. I would have a taste after a couple days vs waiting a week especially for a blond ale.

    I also agree with splitting your batch so half has oak and half doesn't, even if the oak version is "too much" you could always combine an oaked bottle with an unoaked bottle.

    Not sure I would bother with a secondary since you probably won't want to leave it on the oak too long.
     
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