Refunds for 2015 Regular BCBS and 2015 Prop

The only way they can "make it up" is to make 10 times the quantity and make the beer half price, then I might consider it. $5 for a bottle of BCBS and $10 for the special variant.

 

unlikely. at this point i'm wondering if they'll view/weigh *quantity* directly as a risk factor going forward (although signs would not become clearer until next year). i suspect the belts on the QC to be tightened, possibly leading to less instead of more. i also suspect certain aspects they didn't keep on the radar will be back on the screen going forward including barrel acquisition. we've had our back & forth on low-end barrels & whether it really matters. kind of puzzling the reaction to the suggestion when we are all well aware the first *known* instance GI went to low-end barrels, their entire BCBS variant failed. that's a fact we all witnessed 5 years ago.

 

Just as an FYI, the acquition of GI by ABInBev was finalized in March 2011.

Two recalls of barrel aged beers by GI involved two different beers (other than BCBS). Both were brewed before the expansion of capacity following acquisition took place and so they were both aged in barrels already acquired before the acquisition and expansion paid for by ABInBev.

 

i am aware of the merger as well as the other barrel issues you speak of. we are also aware of the *fact* Goose Island was aging a "Wheat" variant to their 2011 released regular BCBS. the wheat variant was placed in Rebel Yell barrels. the variant failed. it failed directly between successful 2011 BCBS & what some regard as the best release ever 2012 BCBS. both regular releases utilized their usual higher-end Heaven Hill barrels. the variant used Rebel Yell which AFAIK is actually Heaven Hill distillate. it's apparently barrels HH sells to a bottler named Luxco in St. Lou, MO. the bottler then bottles & shelves the spirit. a really condensed way of putting it is REJECTED or discarded HH barrels that later became Goose Island REJECTED or discarded barrels. this is all old news. the difference is, with the exception of a very small # of barrels i'm told were bled into the 2012 BCBS blend, the entire wheat variant was tossed - therefore no "recall" occurred.

 

Im not convinced we wasted enough time on this

 

yet you keep a gun to your own head forcing yourself to read & reply contributing to that which you are complaining about. maybe set an example, yourself and go away. unlikely, but who knows, maybe we'll all follow you. it's a forum. some of us enjoy discussing things. even things some don't like or agree with. if you think anything is a lie or wrong or have something of value to offer, by all means have at it.

 

Just cracked a 14.3 Nov 4th. Copper, vinegar, cola head. Basically undrinkable for someone like myself who doesn't like sours in general.

 

Proposing compensation for your time waiting in line/driving/chasing/trading?

Wow.

 

Well, technically he's right. Although it probably is not recoverable or easily quantified -- efforts and resources were wasted. This, however, appears to be a premature issue as goose island has not admitted fault, much less refunds for regular bcbs.

 

laughing out loud..keyboard meet backwoods bastard.

 

Nobody made him stand in line, nothing GI did caused this. They can't be faulted for the limited nature of of BA (space and barrels) and the high demand caused by the USUAL excellence. Pretty sure that most breweries making BA beers with cult following would gladly make enough to meet demand if they could get the barrels and had the space. So - GI should not be expected to make up for the hunt.

 

If I got paid it wouldn't be a hobby.

 

Well, again, premature issue given that GI hasn't admitted or acknowledged anything. However, agreed that financial compensation is not necessary/proper regarding the "hunt", but perhaps public acknowledgement of defected product and a refund (or t-shirt like last time) could serve such a purpose.

 

They have acknowledged that there is a bacterium found in some samples which previously was not thought to cause problems for beer. The word is they are still trying to figure out how things happened, etc.

BTW, It took two months for the independent lab they used as a resource for addiitonal testing to even be able to culture the bacterium from a sample.

 

I suppose that will be fascinating information as would the exact source, but hopefully they don't delay in setting up pasteurization equipment.

 

Nice to know. Would be nice if a public statement was issued, instead of having its customers weed it out though the forums.

 

It was done through a publicly available pod cast referenced some pages back.

Edit: There was a discussion of some aspects of the podcast in the Chicago Tribune.

 

I believe that was re coffee and bw; may be wrong. But a podcast streamed somewhere does require some digging and certainly not public notice or acknowledgement of defected or infected bcbs. Thanks.

 

Sad to hear the 11/4 bottles are turning. I have three of those left, will crack one open this weekend...at least one.

 

Still not experiencing any issues as of Monday July 11th 2016. The regular BCBS batch I have (dated: Nov 6th 2015 &14.3%).

So weird how different dates/batches are producing crazy results!