Refusing to fill a growler

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by dennis3951, Sep 3, 2017.

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  1. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    Would "like" 2,711,241,028 times if I could.
     
  2. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    I could do it.
     
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  3. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Yeah, no doubt many of us did as kids, and COULD do it now, but I'd rather enjoy, remember, and not regret my craft consumption.
     
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  4. Troutbeerbum

    Troutbeerbum Initiate (0) Dec 5, 2016 Maine

    It was dry humor. But yes, I could do it.
     
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  5. CCBone

    CCBone Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2016 Oregon

    This is the right thing to do every time. As many have said, the growler represents the brewery. That beer will, good or bad represent them. And unfortunately, I have been the victim of this.

    I was actually gifted a growler of IPA from my wife's friend who worked at a brewery as a server. She came to stay for a week and it was her way of saying thank you. I opened the beer less than 48 hours after arriving to me...and promptly got food poisoning within 4 hours. No idea if that was her personal growler that was uncleaned or some other issue, but suffice it to say I have never given that brewery another chance.
     
  6. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    Add a squirt of soap with the rinse. Either way, it takes very little effort.
     
  7. Leebo

    Leebo Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2013 Massachusetts

    Sitting might mean a double header of Sunday football. And where can I buy this 18 % stuff?
     
  8. CCBone

    CCBone Initiate (0) Apr 29, 2016 Oregon

    Many breweries put out extra high ABV beers like this, especially anniversary beers. Any of the Bruery's anniversary beers would be like this (Poterie in 2016 was 19% I think). I'm sure evil twin has some that are close-Molotov cocktail clocks in at north of 13 and that comes in 4-pks
     
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  9. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Why? While I'm fully on board with the garbage in garbage out thing. Beer is a little different than printing with the amount of armchair enthusiasm it can generate.
    The customer will not get a good representation of what the brewery offers with a filled dirty growler, and this is probably also the type of customer who will be a lazy tommy pumkinhead pita and complain about this beer, and probably be annoyed the bartender didn't attempt to clean it.
    The dirty growler also takes up time to clean. The dirty growler might also be a PITA to fill because it has filth sourced nucleation points, and in turn waste beer.
    I've seen a dutiful bartender who had the time during the day to attempt and fail to clean one by putting it through the dishwasher three times.
    It's not the breweries responsibility to clean what the consumer cannot take five seconds to do for themselves.
     
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  10. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    I usually rinse right after it's empty, for as long as it takes to clean, and then Star San it, rinse again, and cap. In NY all growler stations are required to have means to clean the growlers, but I don't trust them as much as I trust myself.

    Add me to the list of folks who travel always with growlers in car ready to fill.
     
  11. RobH

    RobH Pundit (908) Sep 23, 2006 Maryland

    Rinsing with cool water before filling helps to reduce foaming during the filling process. Recommended even for spotless-clean bottle such as yours.
     
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  12. DrumKid003

    DrumKid003 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Oklahoma

    So rinsing it out with water isn't clean? What is your definition of clean then? Someone rinsing a growler out with boiling DI water, then throwing it in an autoclave for an hour?
     
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  13. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    I like the policy of the brewery as well, but I think some of you might be making inaccurate assumptions about the acumen of a lot of beer consuming public.

    The first time I went to State Line (in Maryland) many years ago, I went with a buddy from work. This was back when SL still did their "kick the keg" growler purchase specials (not sure if they still do this now), and we were heading up from Baltimore to fill up on $5 growlers of Avril. I can't recall how the subject came up, but at some point my buddy asked me if it made any difference that he hadn't cleaned out his growlers since the last time he used them. I took one whiff of his growler and thought my nose was going to explode. The aroma was horrible and I was stunned that my friend wouldn't have considered this a problem. We talked about it for a bit, and he mentioned that he just hadn't ever given it any thought, and that in the past he'd never bothered to clean out his growler (and hadn't ever noticed any sort of problem).

    My friend is reasonably smart and pretty well educated, and he actually knows something about beer. However, for whatever reason, it had simply never crossed his mind that cleaning out your growler before having it refilled was something that might be a good idea.

    Over the years, I can't say this is the only time I've seen someone bring in a stinking, dirty growler, so I think it's pretty obvious that my friend isn't the only one on the planet that is/was similarly clueless when it comes to growler sanitation. Where I live now, the general policy seems to be to assume that the customer is lazy or an idiot, and so every place I go to that does a growler fill, they always provide a sanitation rinse before filling the jar (sometimes more than a simple rinse if the growler is particularly dirty). I think I've also heard (or been told) that doing a quick rinse before filling the growler cuts down on the amount of foam produced while filling the jar
     
  14. bbtkd

    bbtkd Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,790) Sep 20, 2015 South Dakota
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    Dogfish Head World Wide Stout is an excellent example.
     
  15. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Tap lines are the bars responsibility, your dirty growler may not be. As I said most help you out here, but if I'm a bar you want beer in your dirty shoe I'd fill it. It's your shoe and your beer. I've seen some places thst growler exchange as well, but mostly they just rinse it in sanitizer then rinse it clean, new caps obviously. But I always rinse mine out in hot water and air dry.
     
  16. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    right thing to do, you have to defend the quality of your product, a review of a beer out of a dog's mouth is not a valid review, there's nothing I hate more than when I see a review on here where somebody says something like, "I found this can in a ditch next to a dead dog and it was past the expiration date but oh well I'll review it anyway...it was terrible"
     
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  17. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I have had too many skanky beers placed in front of me from a dirty tap line. No thank you.

    Someone else has said something about dirty glasses.

    Edit has anyone ever heard the phrase beer is food? Beer will spoil just like food when exposed to air and high temperatures. Spoiled beer can leave deposits of mold and bacteria. Dishes and utensils are washed for food safety, why not growlers?

    Shoes? How about drinking out of a freshly used athletes shoe? Patrick Stewart did an F1 shoey, sorry mods, it was Danial Ricardo's shoe and champagne. Do a web search.
     
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  18. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Most here do run your growler thru a sanitizer and rinse, some exchange. The bars I go to all are professionally cleaned or I wouldn't go. I've had crappy beers on dirty lines and it's criminal.
     
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  19. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    When I rinse my growler immediately it gets pretty damn clean - certainly good enough for my regular needs, which means that it will be consumed on the day I get it filled.

    I will clean and sanitize it every 5th or 6th time, though, cuz you never know...

    Also, if I know it won't be opened for a while it'll be given the once over. I even leave a tablespoon or so of iodophor solution in there until the last minute, and dump it in the parking lot on my way into the store.
     
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  20. HopsDubosc

    HopsDubosc Pundit (803) Apr 24, 2015 Vermont

    Not only do I usually have some empty growlers in the car, even though the kid is 6 now and has long outgrown his car seat, I've left it installed in the rear as it makes for an extra secure and cushioned growler conveyance.
     
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