Reusing Smoked beer yeast cake

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  1. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I know it will impart smokiness, I am looking for experiences on how much it imparted. I want to make a smoked munich helles, and pitch a weizenbock type beer on top of that. I want the smokiness in the weizenbock, just wondering if I will have to supplement with smoked malt in the mash.
     
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  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Schlenkerla says there is no smoked malt in their Helles, it gets the smoke from the brewery. If they are cleaning after every brew, as is standard practice, where would it come in? My take is the yeast repitch, and maybe the filter.
     
  3. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    I make a smoked coffee maple stout and after have washed. The yeast cake then reused the years for chocolate or Irish stouts. Don't remember any smoke taste.
     
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  4. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    It should be a malt-forward beer, just in case.
     
  5. GormBrewhouse

    GormBrewhouse Pooh-Bah (2,111) Jun 24, 2015 Vermont
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    A www come on @inchrisin , don't you want smoky dipa?? Are you ready for cherry wood?
     
  6. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Schlenkerla uses the yeast from the Marzan to ferment the Hells. That is where the smoked flavor comes from.
     
  7. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Depends how smokey your first beer is and how smokey you want your second one.
     
  8. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,635) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Yes. There would be plenty of carryover.
     
  9. scottakelly

    scottakelly Maven (1,487) May 9, 2007 Ohio

    I LOVE Schlenkerla Helles. It's always amazed me that a beer can taste that smokey without smoked malt being added.
     
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  10. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I am thinking I will just go with no additional smoked malt this time and see what happens.
     
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  11. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I figured that. I thought I would see what other's experiences have been as a reference point.
     
  12. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I just tapped a keg of brown ale that was fermented with yeast from an IPA. I only used a 60 minute hop addition in this beer. The yeast gave my beer the flavor of a five minute hop addition.
     
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  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Jim,

    I have read discussions where folks state that flocculating yeast will ‘strip’ hop aroma/flavor. It would appear that this is borne out with your experience here?

    Cheers!
     
  14. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    The world's not ready. :slight_smile:
     
  15. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I am not sure of anything. All I can tell you is the IPA had a ton of hop flavor and aroma and the yeast from that batch smelled like a fruit farm. Take care.
     
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