Review beers fresh or aged?

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by bubseymour, Apr 12, 2015.

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  1. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    So for rating purposes here on BA, should all ratings only be for reviews that are fresh (or somewhat fresh..say within a few months of purchase) vs. doing your initial rating or edited rating on a year old (or several) cellared version?

    2nd question/beer advocate protocol, if you never had a particular big stout, BA sour etc. that is generally good to cellar, should you always have your first one fresh or is it ok protocol to stash away? I've recently gotten into cellaring some beers but it seems many that I'm deciding to cellar away are beers that I've never had before (and I only have 1 bottle of and may not ever get to find them again since many were from travel/ out of my local area).

    Thoughts on this subject?
     
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  2. djsmith1174

    djsmith1174 Savant (1,015) Aug 21, 2005 Minnesota

    I think rating a cellared version of a beer is fine, but in those cases you should also take the time to review it and point out it's age. Hopefully people will only review beers that lend themselves to proper cellaring.
     
  3. Monkeyknife

    Monkeyknife Grand Pooh-Bah (5,873) Jan 8, 2007 Missouri
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    I'd prefer any review or rating to reference if the beer has been aged.
     
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  4. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    I've rated aged beers but made it quite plain that I'm doing so. In fact my review for Aventinus was first done before I'd had a fresh one and eventually wound up with comments about three different ages, fresh, cellared at the brewery for 3 years and cellared at the brewery for 5 years. But the comments clearly indicate which I'm talking about at any given time. Also it was a really interesting exercise in learning more about tasting/reviewing, etc.
     
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  5. Treyliff

    Treyliff Grand Pooh-Bah (5,025) Aug 10, 2010 West Virginia
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    Beers are made to be consumed fresh. Some age well, but most are intended to be drank without cellaring. Of course sometimes that doesn't happen if you're like me and buy too many beers, then they get aged only because I don't drink as fast as I buy. :wink:

    As for fresh/cellared reviews, I think reviewing cellared beers are fine, as long as it's a style that holds up well to cellaring. Just make sure to note the bottle date in the reviews.
     
  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Beer is a living thing, made to consume fresh. Luckily some styles do well with aging a bit, some maybe better with a year or so on it some not. Chili stouts are better fresh and hot, the pepper fades a bit with age. I like fresh hot Ba stouts, they just happen to keep well until I get around to drinking them.
     
  7. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    Doesn't matter as long as you're clear about what you're rating.
     
  8. StartedwithSAM

    StartedwithSAM Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2015 Virginia

    As a noobie this was what I thought, just state that this review is for a style aged #years.
     
  9. fearfactory

    fearfactory Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2012 Massachusetts

    I like my first try at any beer to be fresh. And if it's awesome, none get cellared. I would only sit on it if I felt it could improve an unbalanced brew.
     
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  10. jakecattleco

    jakecattleco Grand Pooh-Bah (3,749) Sep 3, 2008 California
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    I typically provide an initial rating on the fresh offering and then revisit and adjust if necessary on the aged version. I do need to be better about noting the cellared age when changing the initial rating.
     
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  11. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    So for some examples, I picked up a Wicked Weed sour while on travel in NC. More than likely will never get the same one to try again. Should I just try it for 1st time (and maybe only time ever) fresh or let it sit for a year? Got a bunch of barleywines that I haven't tried as well. The few from the style I actually enjoyed had age on them. Didn't like any fresh. Should I still try these 1st time barleywines fresh? Most of these are local/can get again beers, but they aren't cheap and I've had better luck with aged BW's so hopefully my questions are reasonable ones.
     
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  12. bluejacket74

    bluejacket74 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,305) Jul 4, 2005 Ohio
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    The way I look at it, as long as you put the bottled on date or give a good guesstimate in your review, that's good enough for me.
     
  13. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,036) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    Trying the beer fresh so you can compare it to an aged one is ideal but I am not not going to chew your ass off if you don't.
     
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  14. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    I have never personally reviewed a cellared beer (I just recently started cellaring) but I think it's only right to first try the fresh product so you can experience the beer how the brewer wanted you to. Also, if you do put up a review of a cellared beer, you should clearly indicate that it is cellared.
     
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  15. MadCat

    MadCat Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2011 New Jersey

    Rate it fresh or aged, doesn't matter, but if it is aged, it is good beer advocacy to note the age in the review. Not required, but it helps those reading the reviews.

    As for something you never had before, I always recommend having one fresh before cellaring any. You should know if you like the fresh flavor before you commit to keeping them.
     
  16. swarthybrews

    swarthybrews Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2014 Kentucky
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    Not sure about that one in particular but if its something that I might not ever get to try again and the general consensus is that its much better with age, I might try to age it. Might as well enjoy it when its flavor is optimum. Otherwise I'd drink it fresh.
     
  17. Boomer4ES

    Boomer4ES Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2012 North Carolina

    There is no need to age anything from Wicked Weed. I have honestly never heard of anyone doing so, though I'm sure it happens. I completely agree with you on barleywines. I will always age mine for 6 months or more, unless it was barrel-aged to begin with. That is the one style I definitely don't mind aging even if I have never tried it.
     
  18. deford

    deford Pooh-Bah (1,559) Nov 11, 2013 California
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    Just let us know....
     
  19. champ103

    champ103 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,296) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
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    If you are reviewing something aged, note it in your review. That is all you have to do.
     
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  20. dank203

    dank203 Maven (1,271) May 21, 2012 New Jersey

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