RIP Anthony Bourdain

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by pro100, Jun 8, 2018.

  1. pro100

    pro100 Initiate (160) Oct 12, 2014 California

    Definitely relevant to this forum as he was a big time beer connoisseur who drank what ever beer the locals had available to him in every country he visited. I do believe he had a few choice words for the craft beer community as well if I can recall. I've watched almost every episode of No Reservations and Parts Unknown over the years and loved the show. If you watched closely he did seem like a guy who could be unhappy in life overall plus he had serious drug problems when he was younger. We all have bad days but seek out help if it gets worse than that.
     
  2. ypsifly

    ypsifly Meyvn (1,031) Sep 22, 2004 Michigan

    "Those beer nerds are fucking merciless" Possibly one of his best quotes. Loved the shows and Kitchen Confidential is a must read for anyone who aspires to be a chef. So much truth in that book.
     
  3. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,044) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    I enjoyed and respected Tony's writing, reports, and perspective on the world (thru the eyes of a true food lover), but he was no beer connoisseur. He basically drank what was handed to him.

    He has said that he never wanted to focus his thoughts deeply on any booze because of his past history with addiction. He feared that if he spent too much time dissecting the nuances and flavor characters of alcohol (as he did food), he'd spiral into addiction again (paraphrasing, of course).

    That said, I'll truly miss his insight through the outstandingly written and produced shows he made. I was already planning to watch his visit to Berlin this Sunday, but I have to wonder how it will come across now.

    RIP Tony. Wish I'd had the opportunity to sit down to a meal with you.
     
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  4. BeastOfTheNortheast

    BeastOfTheNortheast Aspirant (218) Dec 26, 2009 Pennsylvania

    No Reservations and Parts Unknown are my favorite shows/series primarily because of him. He was usually drinking and eating and sometimes even smoking during the shows. If you like drinking, eating, and traveling, these are def. shows for you. He never held anything back as far as what he said, which I thought was great as well. As another poster said, he did seem unhappy at times during some of the episodes. He was my dude. Very upsetting.
     
  5. jesskidden

    jesskidden Meyvn (1,293) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey

    Was just about to post the same thing....

    ... and that's what I liked about him. He was just a beer drinker.

    And, of course, he did make beer geek news at least one time:
    Bourdain: Discovery killed (Dogfish Head TV show) 'Brew Masters' because big beer threatened to pull ads

    And a former guest on one of his episodes tweeted a beer-related remembrance.



     
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  6. pro100

    pro100 Initiate (160) Oct 12, 2014 California

    Agree and disagree with this.. Yeah he's not visiting breweries, can releases, or beer anniversary parties.. but the guy loved beer and most of those countless countries he visited didn't have much of a beer scene other than the local lager that's produced there. He drank good stuff in Germany, Belgium, and a few other eastern European countries.
     
  7. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Crusader (756) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    This is probably the most shocking and upsetting celebrity death of my lifetime. Some will say we should've all seen it coming, but I guess I'd hoped Anthony had gotten his demons as under control as one can.

    I did not agree with him on everything, specifically on his general attitude toward craft beer as well as his opinions on third wave coffee, but he was the closest thing to a personal hero that I had (I don't really believe it's healthy to make people into heroes nor to devalue what heroism really is, plus Bourdain would certainly chastise anyone that claimed he was their hero). Anthony was a huge influence on my life and my desire to constantly challenge myself and my preconceived notions in all things. From him, I learned to never be satisfied or complacent and the importance of being honest even at the risk of being seen as rude or unkind (though, admittedly, he may have taken that too far at times).

    The world has lost a great artist, journalist, foodie, culinary explorer, and cultural investigator. His curiosity and respect for all the varied cultures of the world will live on through all those whose lives he touched, directly or indirectly.

    I'll be raising many a beer and whiskey to him tonight. Rest in peace, Anthony.
     
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  8. edward_boumil

    edward_boumil Defender (600) Jun 28, 2015 New York
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    Its a real shame, the guy was a character and had some really interesting work.

    I'm really sad that it was suicide too. Assuming it wasn't an accident it really sucks to think somebody like this can bring so many people joy and yet be so pained as to not have that same feeling of joy. Travesty really
     
  9. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,044) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    Loving beer and being a connoisseur are two different things. Look up some of his quotes on beer (or any drink). He was really more into food than booze... except that trip he made to Croatia -- that wine struck a chord with him.
    Watch the trip he made to the Czech Republic, he was drinking fresh lager and listening to the natives rave about it... (making me jealous as hell) and being very polite because he didn't get it.

    This is not to slam him in any way, I understand his reasoning toward alcohol and have to respect that.*

    *Edit: I mean really have to respect that. There, but for...
     
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  10. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Meyvn (1,352) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    I always enjoy watching his shows, it was fun to see all the places he traveled and his feedback on everything. Seemed like a down to earth guy with no reservations about his words or actions. You either like him or hate him and he did not care, that is what I liked about the guy. I did not agree with him on everything he said and did but I respected his don't give a dam attitude and not changing to impress. Sort of a bummer to hear, he had a lot of years and a lot of things to give still, real shame he could not see the bright side over just ending it all.
    Cheers :beers:
     
  11. thuey

    thuey Aspirant (274) Nov 13, 2015 California

    I fortunately had the chance to meet him when he was shooting a show in SF a number of years ago. (I got tipped off to when he'd be at a certain place, cuz I was connected to someone who worked there.)

    We saw him filming his segment, but when it was done, he was standing around for a little bit so we decided to approach him. He was pretty cordial, shaking our hands, and bantering with us, not unlike his shows. We only talked to him for a few minutes before letting him head off to his next destination, but he totally was cool chatting with us and didn't treat us as annoyances or anything. Nice guy. And tall too.

    He'll be missed.
     
  12. THANAT0PSIS

    THANAT0PSIS Crusader (756) Aug 3, 2010 Wisconsin
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    Nice one.

    More and more every day in today's society, it was just so refreshing to see someone like Bourdain as they are, no pretense, no censorship, no nonsense.
     
  13. guinness77

    guinness77 Champion (890) Jan 6, 2014 New York

    I generally don’t give a shit about celebrities but this is one I would have gladly had a beer with. No Reservations was a religious watch for me and Kitchen Confidential is a great read. I worked in midtown Manhattan for almost 2 decades and always hoped there’d be the slightest chance I’d bump into him while I was walking around (which I did a lot) and just shake the guy’s hand. RIP.
     
  14. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Savant (907) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Tony liked to drink, but, as others have said, he wasn't a connoisseur of any alcoholic beverage. By his own admission, his tastes in them were quite simple. That doesn't take away from who he was as a person and how entertaining his shows were. He'll certainly be missed by many.
     
  15. steveh

    steveh Poo-Bah (2,044) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois

    Or observer and reporter of life and culture -- he won a freaking Peabody Award, bet he never expected that in his early days! :slight_smile:
     
  16. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Meyvn (1,352) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    I like this interview, this is why I enjoyed watching the guy. Just tells it as it is.
     
  17. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Poo-Bah (3,543) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have always enjoyed watching the Anthony Bourdain travel shows. He was the sort of guy I would have fun eating & drinking beer with.

    I recall in one of his shows (Prague) Anthony Bourdain traveled with Evan Rail to Pivovar Kout na Šumavě in the ‘outskirts’ of the Czech Republic. Anthony sure seemed to enjoy that visit and the wonderful beer (e.g., Pale Lagers) that he was served there. Overall I think he was more of a beer drinker than a beer “connoisseur” but he sure seemed to appreciate ‘better’ beer.

    Cheers!
     
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  18. rudiecantfail

    rudiecantfail Aspirant (287) Aug 9, 2011 Pennsylvania

    I've seen No Reservations a million times and loved it. Didn't see the CNN show hardly ever because they didn't really show reruns off of prime time or have all day Saturday & Sunday marathons like the Travel Channel did with No Reservations. He seemed to be a guy who just enjoyed stuff. Food, places, beer, wine, whisky, whatever. If he couldn't enjoy his life enough to want to stay alive, he obviously had enormous problems. If anyone sees someone who seems like they might have big problems, please act. Say something. Do something. RIP Anthony.
     
  19. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Savant (907) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    Reliance on technology has made face to face, in person, sincere human interaction more and more rare. It would benefit us all greatly if we were to prioritize that once again. FWIW, that's what attracted me to craft beer in the first place. It had much less to do with the beer than it did with the people who were drinking it.
     
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  20. woodchipper

    woodchipper Savant (968) Oct 25, 2005 Connecticut
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    What a surprise this morning, and not the good kind. Been waiting all day to come home and have a beer for Bourdain. Its been said above, but Tony is the only celebrity I ever thought- "That guy would be really cool to have a beer with". So down to earth yet so insightful.
    I read many celebrity tweets today about Bourdain. Tom Cholicchio's is the best. Look it up.

    Stupid quick story. My youngest son was maybe 15 and had just read Kitchen Confidential. My middle son tried to call him to come for something stupid multiple times and he responded, from the TV room in frustration "Anthony Bourdain is fucking on TV, shut up". Ever since we have had a family joke about his porn career.
     
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  21. lastmango

    lastmango Devotee (485) Dec 11, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I was totally shocked by this. Had off today and my eldest daughter texted the bad news. Brought tears to my eyes. I always watch Tony's shows. Loved his insight on culture, food and booze . . . including is sometimes irreverent comments. I have his Hong Kong episode taped and was looking forward to his future episodes. Tony RIP!
     
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  22. bubseymour

    bubseymour Poo-Bah (2,186) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    - Enjoyed his show. Liked his narratives and seeing all of the places he visited.
    - IMO Despite living what seemed to be a great life and awesome job (traveling the world and getting paid to do so) he came across on TV as a generally miserable person with issues. His death doesn't surprise me, but it is quite sad.
     
  23. rudiecantfail

    rudiecantfail Aspirant (287) Aug 9, 2011 Pennsylvania

    So sad, but so true. Suicide rates are up significantly over the period since the internet has existed. There's just no replacement for live, in person interactions. Social media existence is not the same as actually knowing/talking to/interacting with live people. Not that that's why Bourdain killed himself, but it's still a real problem.
     
  24. MistaRyte

    MistaRyte Devotee (436) Jan 14, 2008 Virginia

    Need to rewatch The Big Short again to catch his cameo...

    ... and Margot Robbie in a hot tub has no effect on my decision either.

    RIP Bourdain.
     
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  25. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Savant (907) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    I know what I'm doing tonight. Lagers and ramen and some No Reservations.
     
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  26. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Savant (907) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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    It was certainly apparent that he had demons. They were what made him so good. The best characters are the ones that are flawed, because they are the ones that are the most human and if Tony was one thing, he was human.
     
  27. peteboiler

    peteboiler Initiate (181) Dec 16, 2010 Florida

    Always a guy I related to. Always seemed so honest and outspoken without being rude. Just threw his thoughts out there. Definitely refreshing in today's society of political correctness and a plethora of bad manners.
     
  28. JakerLou

    JakerLou Meyvn (1,057) Jan 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    I just rewatched Parts Unknown season 8 episode 3 where he takes Eric Ripert to Sichuan province in China. One of my favorite episodes. He tortures poor Eric with spicy food and booze. They seemed to have a really genuine close relationship.

    Celebrity news doesn't usually affect me but Anthony's death made me sad. I'm going to miss his him.
     
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  29. EvenMoreJesus

    EvenMoreJesus Savant (907) Jun 8, 2017 Pennsylvania
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  30. JakerLou

    JakerLou Meyvn (1,057) Jan 6, 2013 New Hampshire
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    I read that. So awful. I can't imagine.
     
  31. mudbug

    mudbug Defender (624) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon

    RIP Tony, I don't know of any other celebrity that I will miss more.
     
  32. FatBoyGotSwagger

    FatBoyGotSwagger Meyvn (1,068) Apr 4, 2009 Pennsylvania

    This is sad, Tony was a straight shooter. The thing I find odd is calling this a "suicide." Unless he left a note which I haven't read about it seems like he may have taken something and just passed in his sleep.. I guess we will learn more in the days to come.
     
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  33. AZBeerDude72

    AZBeerDude72 Meyvn (1,352) Jun 10, 2016 Arizona
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    He was found dead and had hung himself, confirmed by authorities.
     
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  34. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Zealot (523) May 13, 2007 South Carolina

    I'll bet a cold, tasty beer that he was taking psychotropic drugs. You know, the ones that warn "...may cause suicidal thoughts..." Ditto Kate Spade.
    And many of the mass shooters were also on them. After all, if you no longer care about your own life, why would you care about the lives of others?
    Those drugs are dangerous and shouldn't be mass marketed like they're an easy solution to stress.
     
  35. BeRightBock

    BeRightBock Devotee (475) Apr 27, 2007 New York
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    Your baseless, uninformed and unnecessary speculation pushes the bounds of common decency.
     
  36. babaracas

    babaracas Poo-Bah (1,884) Jan 30, 2008 Florida

    This sucks. Dude seemed to be most of all a really good human, someone who cared about others, about others' cultures, about fixing what was broken with himself, his craft, and his fellow humans. Also an incredibly talented writer. Mental health is hard. Drink some cold, local beer "with minimal fuss" and crush some noodles and animal proteins this weekend.
     
  37. surfcaster

    surfcaster Champion (825) Apr 20, 2013 North Carolina
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    From the epitome in haute cuisine in Paris to dinner in a remote village in Madagascar, Bourdain took us there and did so in a way that made you feel that he saw eye to eye with the common man. The shows where he was truly in the "middle of nowhere" appealed to me the most.

    And he preferred the local beer of the common man as a part of that experience with no pretense. There is life lesson there for us all.
     
  38. nick_perry

    nick_perry Disciple (395) Mar 11, 2017 North Carolina

    I enjoyed Anthony's narrative style. He saw through bull shit and always sought out the authentic experience. He didn't just take you to the tourist highlights. He also had high regard for the unsung heroes of the restaurant, the cooks, servers.
     
  39. mickyge

    mickyge Crusader (794) Nov 1, 2014 Massachusetts
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    He seemed to be one of the most honest celebrities on television, he wore his heart on his sleeve. He would have been fun to hang out with. It’s a shame he felt this was the best solution for his issue. Rest easy.
     
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  40. CrimeDog

    CrimeDog Aspirant (251) Dec 31, 2015 New York
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    Big fan of Anthony Bourdain, he was a cool customer....

    Sometimes drinking alcohol when we are already in a bad place digs us deeper - lets be self-aware....