Rogue Voodoo Donut

having had it, I want to get one and age it and see if it gets any better, but I am not holding my breath.

 

same here in florida..dust is covering the bottles..

 

Really? The Rogue beer is ok b/c why? It is craft, but Yuengling deserves to be hated on? I dislike Yuengling as much as anyone but wouldn't be so harsh. Plenty of people love it, and they serve a purpose in the beer world. What offends me about the Rogue beer is the utter lack of apparent planning. A small scale batch ought to have yielded enough data to show that the concept and/or execution was seriously flawed or that the cost of novelty was too high for such a strange beer.

I dislike the bottle, but what I hate is the contents - utter phenolic trash imo. I mentioned this in the other thread but am not opposed to the chance that there might be some bottle variation. But I also know that many people will taste maple in a pilsner if you tell them to look for it.

Ohh, and I wouldn't be so sure about how good Rogue intended it to be. Any brewer worth his salt should intend EVERY beer, every batch to be world class. If you don't then you aren't worth my time or respect.

 

then you should cross a lot of american breweries off your list.

 

Well this is the dilemma, my friend. John Maier is known for being one of the most respected brewers out there, as well as having the ability to be constant in his brews. What I believe is also important is if you willing to tell him directly that is beer is shit. I do understand where you come from. I really do.

I also believe and this may be lost any many people, but the disdain for Rogue, and for example, Dogfish Head, is regional. Most of the naysayers I have seen from both breweries, have in fact, sadly, been from the Mid West. I personally know that there is great beer to be had from this region, and we know the examples.

What is the hate from the Mid Westerner's coming from? If this is so, can any Mid Westerner explain this?

I am being fair to Rogue, as well as you, Spider. No one is perfect including the brew master. Mistakes are made and failure to be abound. It is just our willingness as a man or woman, to acknowledge this.

 

I have heard that they are a very difficult brand to work with, going so far as to not replace old beer sitting on shelves. Good on you for passing.

I'm glad to read that (most) everyone liked this one as much as I did.

 

I have a bottle chilling in the fridge.

I compare buying this beer to buying my ticket for "The Expendables", I didn't go into it expecting an award winning movie, I just wanted to enjoy how ridiculous it was.

 

I definitely have, though you seem to miss my meaning. Not every beer is going to be a winner; so be it. But the brewer ought to be aiming to make a good beer - put some thought, effort, care, etc into it. It's the brewer who says, "Well, no one has brewed a beer with popcorn butter before, I will make just that, as fast and cheaply as possible, and market it to movie theaters to make a quick buck!" that I would take issue with.

Well, here's the thing: I currently have the lowest review on the site for this beer. So my opinion of it is public record for the brewers to see. I never used anything so dense as "shit" as a descriptor, but yes, I wouldn't have any qualms telling him what I thought of the beer. Or do you think that I, the Rogue-hating Midwesterner, would swoon over a famous brewer or lack the fortitude of a Westerner to speak his mind?

I don't hate Rogue, so stop jumping to the broadest and weakest of biases - regional stereotypes. I enjoy several of their beers and have numerous times in the past taken issue with people whose main reason for hating on them is the price, when many well-regarded breweries charge just as much or more. Not to mention I hold DFH in very high regard, enough so to call them one of my favorite breweries. I love the spirit of experimentation in craft beer, and am willing to try anything. But please do not mistake that for desiring to sugarcoat the truth, or lack the ability to objectively realize that even the best brewery will produce some flops.

 

I thought it was pretty decent.

I think this beer suffers from the Black Xantus problem, a few early and vocal negative reviews tainted the expectation for future tasters.

 

This bad...

I so wanted to love this beer!

 

Smelled really good......tasted thin, watery, bad, smoky water to me. Drain poured it.
Rogue = disappointing yet again.

 

A great response and one I highly expected.

To go off tangent, I do believe I have some experience in regional stereotypes as I myself come from the region of Basilicata in Italy, and even now we fight what other regions in Italy say about us. When I came to America I wanted to understand all I could about the regions, and I have lived in Eugene, Oregon, San Diego, California, the Big Horn Mountains in Wyoming, and yes even Ohio, dude!

In other words, I make it my life's work to respect, honor, and understand the culture we have here, and this goes hand in hand with the craft world. Hey, it is the geek in me and just the person I am. \m/

 

Well do you think Rogue purposely made a shitty, cheap product?

 

Oddly enough, it hasn't been made available to retailers in Oregon, so locals have to go to one of the Rogue establishments to get any. Based on the number of questions I've received, I probably could have blown through a couple dozen cases since it was initially released, but at this point I think the wave of curiosity has receded.

 

And oddly enough my buddy just bought a case and loves this! Each to his own!

 

my friends and i liked it as a smoked beer. Im not usually a fan of smoked beers but the maple syrup was awesome. Its not really the actual beer that is selling but the idea of a voodoo maple bacon doughnut. Rogue and Voodoo doughnuts are legendary imho

 

My issue ins't that regionalism and homerism do not exist, because they do. But to stereotype me as a Midwesterner and thus so eone who must hate Rogue/DFH is a bit much.

FWIW I really wanted to like the beer, sounded fun, but was just not good.

I do not, and the fact that you ask tells me you aren't hearing my message. My main issue isn't that they made a bad beer, but apparently made so much of it and sell it at high prices despite not being very "agreeable" to put it nicely.

I also never said it was cheap, just that it was overpriced for something that, to me, smelled/tasted like it was spiked with medicinal phenolics. Had it tasted exactly like the name implied I imagine it would be sitting at near CBS or No Crusts status right now.

 

really? im not a huge fan of bacon maple doughnuts and i can say CBS does not taste like them. This beer tasted liek a beer version of a bacon maple doughnut. I think they achieved what they were going for. It wasn't intended to be a CBS-caliber beer, just a fun thing.

 

I can see this has degenerated to the point where you're being choosy in what you read in what I am both saying (and apparently not saying). I'll just leave you with saying that I never said the beer tasted anything like CBS, was meant to, or even that even the most novice beer drinnker would confuse to taste similar. The point was that with proper execution the beer could have been something desirable and sought after - look at the madness when it was first announced (before sales and reviews went up).

I already mentioned numerous times that there may well have been severe bottle variation.

Finally, while obviously meant to be a "fun" or "experimental" beer, this shouldn't immediatly mean that Rogue did not intend this to be an exceptional product. Like I said, hopefully they aimthis with every beer they make (at least those deemed good enough to sell on a large scale). I am sure No Crusts was mostly a fun experiment in how whacky a beer can get, but it has traded for some serious whales. So no need to discount Rogue based on concept......

 

If you like opening a beer just for the smell, then it MIGHT be worth it. The aroms was excellent!!! But, holy S*%T, the drink is a big ZERO. Rogue should apologize, and offer at $3 a bottle to clear it out of existence.

I rarely drain pour, but I did this one.