Rogue Voodoo Donut

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by buffs9, May 12, 2012.

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  1. BrewsoBrewco

    BrewsoBrewco Crusader (479) Feb 15, 2011 Oregon

    I think the problem w/ the bottles sitting on the shelf everywhere else except Portland is the novelty, not the beer. Yes people may not like what the beer is but they also don't quite understand it. Voodoo Donuts is the "it" company of the PAC NW outside of beer. They have been of the Food Network and Travel Channel and people will wait in line for HOURS to get a freaking donut. it was smart as shit of Rogue to collaborate w/ them to make a beer. It flies out of the Rogue pubs and off the shelves of Portland like no ones business. To have to opportunity to have a beer based off of the famed maple bacon bar. Around the US Voodoo is not as know as here in the NW. That is why it is collecting dust.

    As far as the beer I think John Maier did the best w/ what he was given. He knows how to do smoke ales. Has anyone had Rogues smoke ale that actually likes smoke ales. One of the best rauch beers in the world, and was awarded so with a gold at GABF last. Shit, Alaskan Smoked Porter is his recipe. I know all the hate that Rogue gets, but for what he did with a crazy concept( to model a beer after a donut for christ-sake) he did a good job. Haters hate, lovers love. To each his own.
     
  2. Spider889

    Spider889 Pooh-Bah (1,933) Mar 24, 2010 Ohio
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    No... lovers hate seeing anyone disliking what they love, no matter how unbiased, or how true.

    I love a good smoked beer, Aecht Schlenkerla stuff is amazing. But I didn't see this as a smoked beer judging from the aroma/flavor of it. Just because someone doesn't like a beer doesn't mean they have a vendetta against the entire brewery.

    I am well aware of what Voodoo Donut is and yeah, the beer was a good idea, just poorly executed.
     
  3. BrewsoBrewco

    BrewsoBrewco Crusader (479) Feb 15, 2011 Oregon

    i never said that not liking a beer meant having a vendetta against an entire brewery. The disdain amongst BA towards Rogue for whatever reason is not a new thing. The base beer is a smoke beer, however you take it. You know Voodoo but a lot of people don't. I personally don't think it is as poorly executed as it is made out. I think if had been a porter as originally advertised on the label it may have held up better, but for a 5% or something brownish ale I don't it was terrible. Just an opinion added to a growing thread
     
  4. Spider889

    Spider889 Pooh-Bah (1,933) Mar 24, 2010 Ohio
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    But the claim of unfounded disdain is equally not new. In both cases I think that people are overreacting and taking things too personally. Your first post suggests that the people who disliked this beer were:
    • Unfamiliar with or not fans of smoked beer
    • Just Rogue haters jumping on a running bandwagon
    • Unfamiliar with or unable to appreciate the concept of the beer or its origin
    Plus you insinuate that the beer collects dust because people don't get that concept, and seem to ignore the fact that roughly half of the people commenting (and reviewing) the beer dislike part of the beer if not the entire thing. You also seem to be claiming that just because the brewers at Rogue have made good smoked beers in the past, that that means that this must also be a good smoked beer. By way of inference one could also conclude that you're saying that if we don't like the beer we just don't respect the obvious skill of these brewers, and thus do not know what we're talking about.

    Rogue certainly made a complicated beer - whether it had to be is up for debate imo. And while not a normal brew by any means, it's not as revolutionary or hair-brained as many other beers out there. My point is that just because they set out to make a beer that tasted like a donut doesn't mean it can't be done really well or that we should all just give them the benefit of the doubt and say only positive things about the beer.

    In short, I don't care if you want to throw an opinion out there, I would just like to see people make a real argument for once here and stop trying to blame things on the old cop outs: Rogue is unjustly hated, people not from the PNW just don't get how good Rogue is.
     
  5. BrewsoBrewco

    BrewsoBrewco Crusader (479) Feb 15, 2011 Oregon

    There is not one place in my argument that I am making a cop-out for what the beer is. I understand people don't like the beer and that is fine. And I never inferred that the people responding to this thread didn't know what they are talking about, or for the fact of the matter that I don't know what I am talking about which is always a possibility.

    What I was saying that with the brewers previous ability to make smoke beers, and what I am sure was a daunting task to make a Maple bacon donut beer that he killed that beer, he did an awesome job. That is my opinion. Favorite beer ever, no. Good for what it is. Hell yes. And no people don't get the concept. I understand that the reviews are terrible, that it is the most hated beer of the year ect...And the BA's are noticing that it is sitting on the shelves. Well not every person walking into a store is a BA, or goes on this website and checks reviews and what people are saying. So people all over the country are walking into stores, looking at a pepto pink bottle and saying, nope I don't think i want that, without ever hearing a word. That is why I am insinuating that it is collecting dust. Because it is different and could seem scary.

    Good for you, you know what VooDoo is, and a lot of other people do because of travel channel and food network and ect..., but they aren't following the hype in the middle of the country or the east coast unless they go to Portland. So when they see a beer based off some little donut shop in the PAC NW, they may think hmmm cool, and then walk away. It sells like crazy in Oregon.
     
  6. ajramirez1

    ajramirez1 Initiate (0) Apr 9, 2011 Washington

    Ya a smoked beer indeed. Not a fan of smoked, thus wont buy it
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