Ruined by Proxy

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  1. SovietBillCosby

    SovietBillCosby Devotee (360) Dec 6, 2013 New Jersey

    I'm sure many of us here like to believe that what others say don't influence the beer that you're drinking.
    However, I've had some beers with company that turned my indecisive opinion of the beer into a totally negative one. Now I've had people tell me that they couldn't stand the beer I was drinking, but I'm talking about the times when their description is so foul that you're completely turned off.

    Most memorable for me was Perennial's The Last Word. For some reason I wasn't picking up any sort of tartness or lime flavor, it just tasted sort of odd (second beer of the night, palate couldn't have been too skewed). When I asked a friend to try it and what they thought they told me, "tastes like a glass full of saliva from someone chewing gum." After taking another sip and picking up on the wintergreen in the beer it was ruined.

    Shame since this was my first Perennial offering and I was excited to try it. Have you ever been turned off a beer by another?
     
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  2. PuckIt

    PuckIt Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I had one experience where suddenly the dogfish punkin' ale I was drinking tasted like vomit...and now it always does. :slight_frown:

    It used to be one of my favorites.
     
  3. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    I ruined Devil Dancer for my wife. She didn't taste the onion/garlic combo until I pointed it out.
     
  4. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    Not craft and not recent but I found Tecate to be oily at one time which reminded me of when I accidentally ingested jet fuel. I could immediately taste the jet fuel after my brain sensed the correlation. There's not enough lime on earth to convince the brain you are NOT in fact drinking a petroleum product.

    For the record, I'd rate "mouthfeel" for jet fuel as 0.00.
     
  5. OldRickSputin

    OldRickSputin Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Illinois


    Thinking of saliva and chewing gum as you're drinking a beer might ruin it for me too.

    Lesson learned I guess. :/
     
  6. jRocco2021

    jRocco2021 Savant (1,083) Mar 13, 2010 Wisconsin

    Wow never seen this thread before kudos for being original. I don't have any stories but so far this is an awesome thread.
     
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  7. gcamparone

    gcamparone Pooh-Bah (2,131) Dec 6, 2011 Rhode Island
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    Yup, the moment someone said that some west coast IPAs have a "cat piss" aroma and taste, I couldn't un-taste it and still can't to this day
     
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  8. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    Hell, I eat Epoisse, nothing anyone says about a beer is going to change my opinion of whether or not I like it.
     
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  9. SovietBillCosby

    SovietBillCosby Devotee (360) Dec 6, 2013 New Jersey

    That's another one that happened to me. With my first Knee Deep offering Simtra Triple. I wasn't sure what I was picking up on the nose, so I asked someone with me what they thought. "I hate to tell you, but it smells like cat piss"
    Shame this keeps happening to me with breweries that I'm excited to try.
     
  10. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    ...although how would anyone know what a glassful of saliva from someone chewing gum tasted like?

    I think the same thing when I hear "wet horse blanket" - like, you've tasted that?

    Although I do get that certain terms become baseline descriptors, like "dank" or "funky" - but when I hear "cat piss" it's like, ewww... How do you even know what that's like? :rolling_eyes: lol :stuck_out_tongue:
     
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  11. BowWowWowYippyYoIPA

    BowWowWowYippyYoIPA Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2014 California

    I love cat piss IPAs.
     
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  12. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    How do they know? Roughly 75% of flavor comes from the smells that make up the aroma. It's powerful enough that smells can mislead you into thinking you are tasting one thing when it really is a different one. So for some folks if it smells like urine that's a flavor they pick up. Some hops produce smells that even the pro tasters describe as being like cat urine. I've known some folks so sensitive to the oder of cat urine they can tell on first visit not long after walking in the door if someone has a cat living in the house, even without seeing it or the litter box.

    As for the smell of gum chewing saliva, if you chew gum you've tasted/smelled your own.
     
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  13. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Well, to balance that out, things can also be made better by proxy. E.g. If you review a beer and then go look at what some of the better reviewers have to say about it you can sometimes realize what it was you liked while you were tasting. Having a name for it helps with being able to pick certain things out from all the other flavors.
     
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  14. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    Yeah - guess I didn't think that one through :rolling_eyes: lol - although I must confess, familiar with both cat urine and bubblegum, those happen to be characteristics I've never picked up on in a beer...

    Cheers :sunglasses:
     
  15. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Interesting. You don't get something like bubblegum from some hefeweizen?
     
  16. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    No - there was thread somewhere about the banana-like character in hefeweizens where this came up, too - perhaps because I don't chew gum? :astonished:
     
  17. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Quite possible that if you never chewed bubble gum you'd not recognize the flavor if it walked up and bit you in the a... :-)

    I once knew a professional taster who made it a point when visiting a new country to go find as many new and different flavored spices and dishes he'd never tried so he could learn what tasters from that country were referrring to in their descriptions.
     
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  18. Jmorey

    Jmorey Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2015 Michigan

    I definitely get bubblegum from some hefes. This was far before I was into craft beer, read beer reviews online, etc. so it was an organic thought.
     
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  19. klawburke

    klawburke Initiate (0) Mar 30, 2013 Massachusetts

    How... how does that happen?
     
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  20. 31Sam13

    31Sam13 Initiate (0) Sep 29, 2014 New Hampshire

    I've always wondered what jet fuel tasted like, but I've never had the balls, though my cousins tricked me into huffing gas once as a youngster...how have you imbibed and in what way?...
     
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