Rye Whiskey BA Papier

It doesn't seem like you're all that far apart based on the two options. You're more likely to set off the millionth Midwest vs. California turf war than get much objective advice with this thread, though. If the negotiation has been tricky enough that you have to open it up to the masses, is the trade really worth it? Either option seems to be reasonable enough.

 

I'm sorry, is your comment a joke?

 

Oh, you've never tried props?

 

fixed that for you.

 

None of that makes RW Papier valuable. You may have come across props easily within the seven weeks following its release, but that does not mean you didn't give up great beer for them. RW Papier is rare, but it's not a white whale...it's been out for how many years now and it's not even 100-rated. I have plenty of rare beer, doesn't make them valuable. Degree of quality + Degree of rarity + Demand = trade value. It's not even close to being worth $140, which is roughly the value of five props, and it's arguably not as good as props! And there's no demand for RW Papier. Tons of demand for props.

 

Less than 300 bottles of each variant of Papier were available for purchase at the old Bruery tasting room in 2009, and you could only buy one bottle of each variant. That is actual rarity.

I'm glad to hear that Proprietors is delicious and scarce, but I would not trade any Papier variant for a case of Proprietors.

 

yes, it is.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...lNaWRXcUpqUUd4eWtTTGlHUmc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

 

Let's appreciate that list for the fun exercise I'm sure it was versus some sort of trade value proof source.

 

It's more of a trade value proof source than what's been going on in this thread. BA Papier is like nonexistent at this point. Whales don't need to be the best beers ever, which has been quite clear. PiaPT sounds like it might be a drainpour now, but look at what that goes for. I'm sure RW Papier is much better and even more rare. Just used that as an example because it's the same brewery. Trading quantity is hard. 5 props would be delicious, but you're never going to see a RW Papier again if you give yours up, most likely.

 

see wooden hell for further proof.

 

No demand for BA Papier? What gives you that idea?

 

No doubt, that's a great list. Someone should write an algorithm for calculating trade value based on three or more variables: Vintage, BA Rating, No. of bottles released...

 

No one is actively looking for it.

 

There's no doubt that it's rare...props may be pretty hard to get in a few years as well.

 

This all coming from the guy that wanted PVW Black Magick and something else for a Proprietors

 

Lol prop's good, but <<<<< PVW BM on taste, rarity, etc.

No one actively looks for Rw Papier bc there are like no bottles and takes a ton to land. There's so much prop it's like the currency on the trade board these days.

 

Yeah, it's the same argument I made to you. And my low-ball offer was a counter to your proposal that I should offer you a combination of JD Cake, Proprietors, Baudonia, and King Henry for one 12oz bottle of PVW Black Magick. Talk about ridiculous. I'm probably the only person in the US with a bomber of Baudoinia and you want me to give it up for a 12oz bottle of PVW Black Magick???

 

The best beer is the one in your fridge guys.