Safeale S-04 - repitch before bottle conditioning?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by tngolfer, Jul 23, 2012.

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  1. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    I have never used S-04 yeast before. For a high-flocculation yeast like this, will there be enough yeast in suspension to bottle condition or would I have to add additional yeast?
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I haven't used S-04, but I have never used (or heard of) a yeast strain so flocculant that it would normally require an addition for bottling (assuming ABV tolerance not exceeded, etc.)
     
  3. tngolfer

    tngolfer Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2012 Tennessee

    Slightly different topic but isn't additional yeast generally required when lagering for an extended amount of time?
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I know people who do not add yeast after lagering, and their bottles carbonate fine. But if there is one case where 'insurance yeast' may be justified, it might be after a long lagering, at least for peace of mind.
     
  5. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Its fine... no need to re yeast. I've even bottle conditioned after cold crashing and fining and there was still enough in solution to carbonate.
     
  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I have used this yeast many times without adding more yeast at bottling. I have sometimes added yeast at bottling for lagers or beverages that have aged for lengthy periods (such as a couple meads that I wanted "sparkling"). Even for ale strains that are highly floccing, there seems to be enough yeast to bottle. I suspect that when I rack to a bottling bucket, I pick up yeast a off the bottom of the fermenter plus whatever is in solution. You don't have to take efforts to resuspend that yeast on the bottom; I just think some inevitably transfers and probably helps carbonate.
     
  7. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    If adding yeast after lagering helps one to RWD & HAHB, then by all means one should go for it. However, I don't believe that it is typically necessary. The two pils that I made this past winter were in secondaries for 71 and 78 days after being in primaries for 23 and 30 days, respectively. Both carbonated in the bottles just fine. As pweis909 mentioned, I also tend to pick up a bit of yeast from the bottom of the secondary when racking to the bottling bucket.

    The only time that I have found it necessary to add more yeast is when making a beer high in alcohol that has conditioned in the secondary for an extended length of time.
     
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