Saison FG question from Brewtoad

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  1. sjjn

    sjjn Pundit (852) Jun 4, 2004 California

    Putting together a 5 gallon recipe in Brewtoad at work (have Beersmith at home) and it spits out the following:

    7lbs Pilsner
    3lbs Red Wheat
    1lb Munich
    5 oz Acidulated

    Mash @ 148

    Summit .5 @60
    Summit .5 / Citra .5 @5
    Summit .5 / Citra .5 Dryhop 5days

    Wyeast 3711 - 1L starter from stirplate
    Pitch at 65 then ramp to 74

    EST OG 1.062 - EST FG 1.012
    40 IBU, 5SRM

    I'm thinking 3711 will dry this out to at least 1.006 if not lower, no?
    Thoughts? If not, should I add some sugar to the grist to replace some Pilsner?
     
    #1 sjjn, Mar 6, 2014
  2. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Use Vikeman's spreadsheet. This recipe will finish much lower @ that mash temp
     
    #2 jlordi12, Mar 6, 2014
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  3. MarioM

    MarioM Initiate (0) Sep 13, 2009 California

    You should increase the yeast apparent attenuation percentage from the default 75-80% to around 95%. With that yeast at that mash temp you will finish around 1.003 FG easy.
     
    #3 MarioM, Mar 6, 2014
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  4. sjjn

    sjjn Pundit (852) Jun 4, 2004 California

    Thanks fellas. I thought so. I've used 3711 once before on a Rye Saison and I remember that went from .68 to.002.
     
    #4 sjjn, Mar 6, 2014
  5. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    Change it to 92-95% app att, that program never gets it right for Saison yeasts.
     
    #5 jbakajust1, Mar 6, 2014
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  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    Never used this software but this yeast took a beer of mine down to 1.000 from 1.060, iirc. It had a little bit of sugar and probably was mashed low but regardless this yeast can rip through a beer
     
    #6 pweis909, Mar 7, 2014
  7. firstthenlast

    firstthenlast Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Massachusetts

    you will get down to 1.000 plus minus a thousandth
     
    #7 firstthenlast, Mar 7, 2014
  8. od_sf

    od_sf Initiate (0) Nov 2, 2010 California

    3711 once tried to eat my carboy when it was done with the fermentables.
     
    #8 od_sf, Mar 7, 2014
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  9. Ilanko

    Ilanko Initiate (0) Aug 3, 2012 New York

    How about adding some BELGIAN CANDI SYRUP ?
     
    #9 Ilanko, Mar 7, 2014
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