Saison w/Brett - When to add brett

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  1. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I have never made a saison w/brett before. What have people had the best experience getting funky saisons, adding in the primary or secondary? I am using Wyeast 3724 as the primary yeast.
     
  2. ncaudle

    ncaudle Initiate (0) May 28, 2010 Virginia

    the more sugars the brett has to consume, the funkier it can be.
    I've added brett at secondary, blended with a saison yeast in primary and done brett only... all work.
     
  3. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Did you have a preference? Did the primary get funky faster?
     
  4. ncaudle

    ncaudle Initiate (0) May 28, 2010 Virginia

    if you want a funky brett saison, add the brett along with the saison yeast.
    I don't recommend using a plastic bucket for this as the brett could take hold in the bucket
     
  5. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have brewed two batches of combined ale yeast/Brett in my plastic buckets. I simply sanitized the bucket afterwards and fermented the next beer. Never had an issue with Brett ‘infections’ for subsequent brews.

    Cheers!
     
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  6. ncaudle

    ncaudle Initiate (0) May 28, 2010 Virginia

    I wasn't saying it WILL happen, only that it could
     
  7. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    And I am not saying it wont happen, it just didn't happen to me (twice).

    My supposition is that if an individual practices conscientious sanitation then it is perfectly OK to reuse plastic buckets between Brett and non-Brett batches. At least this works for me.

    Cheers!
     
  8. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    So I just brewed up a brett saison and it's been fermenting for two weeks now at 80F. I took a gravity reading last night and was pleased with the flavors I have. The wort was 47.5% wheat and Belgian pils, 5% Sauer malt. I also added clementines and coriander as it was a split batch and the other half is a wit. My starting gravity was 1.060, and right now it's at 1.003. I used wlp saison 1 and brett brux trois pitched in to the primary together with no starter. It's funky, I was really hoping for more tropical flavors though. But then again, two weeks isn't nearly enough for the brett to shine. I'll let it sit at least another month and then bottle her up.
    Secondly, I brewed two brett beers and had no issues with using the same bucket again with a straight sacc fermentation. The third time I had an infected batch of IPA after doing a brett saison. It was fan freaking tastic though, but eventually wound up with a half case of gushers. It's a dedicated brett fermenter now.
     
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