Samples. How many is too many?

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  1. JdoubleA

    JdoubleA Pundit (903) Apr 27, 2011 North Carolina

    I like sampling something if I am unsure between two beers, but sometimes at a place I frequent, it just seems to get out of hand with some people.

    Last night this cagey fellow walked in, asked for two samples (hoppin frog doris and aventinus) slowly sipped them, then ordered a sample of blueberry nightmare, drank about half of it and then decided on a founders breakfast stout.

    I left shortly after, so I can't say if he ordered more, but I see these folks all the time, and he just seemed like the type that would have asked for more. I've seen a table order 6 samples. That's just crazy.

    There seems to be a protocol that I follow which would be about a sample per beer ordered, if that. Most places I just order what I want. And if they sell flights, which this place does, and I was unsure between more than two beers, I would pay for a freaking flight.
     
  2. meb3476

    meb3476 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2013 Massachusetts

    Most of the places I go the bar caps samples at two.
     
  3. beerjerk666

    beerjerk666 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,155) Aug 22, 2010 Florida
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    6 samples would be more than enough in my opinion.
    If they have flights available I would take that route rather than asking for as many samples as I could get.
    If the bartender doesn't have an issue with it then I guess you could ask for as many samples as you wanted, until they cut you off. That's shady to me, so I wouldn't be the one to do that.
     
  4. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    Do you mean buy a sample, as in like a 2 oz. pour for a few bucks?
    Or do you mean asking for free taste's to decide? If its the free taste's to decide I think 1 is max acceptable. I can't try a sample of the steaks on a menu before ordering.
     
  5. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    If the establishment doesn't allow you to get a refund if you don't like what you ordered, or they don't do flights or half pours, there should be unlimited "try it before you buy it" samples. For all other establishments that offer smaller pours and flights, three samples is the absolute max in my book. Anything beyond that is pilferage, plain and simple. When I go into a bar, I treat it like I'm a guest at someone's home. Especially if it's busy, I don't expect the bartender to give me sample after sample when there are paying customers who know what they want waiting to get served. What really burns me up, as a bartender, is when people presumptuously say "We're gonna get a few samples of some beers to figure out which one we want" to which I'm basically like "Ok, so you're getting a flight cuz there's no way in hell I'm pouring several tasters for you at once" only I'm more polite about it of course. Speaking of politeness though, I find the people who ask for taster after taster to be rude. For instance, the guy who's mentioned in the OP was within the limits I see as acceptable with the first two tasters, but then he asks for a taster of My Blueberry Nightmare? That keg is ridiculously expensive. If people realized how narrow the profit margins are on some of these beers, even when they're priced at $1/oz for a pour, I feel like (or would hope) they wouldn't be so ignorant. And, yeah, if the place offers flights, that table should order flights, not 6 samples. Ridiculous.
     
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  6. Rback

    Rback Crusader (489) Feb 26, 2012 New York

    There seems to be a protocol that I follow which would be about a sample per beer ordered, if that. Most places I just order what I want. And if they sell flights, which this place does, and I was unsure between more than two beers, I would pay for a freaking flight.[/QUOTE]

    I do the same.
     
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  7. Immortale25

    Immortale25 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,775) May 13, 2011 North Carolina
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    See, I've heard people use this analogy and it's flawed. A steak you have to prep and cook up before it's ready. All you have to do with draft beer is turn around, pick up a glass and pull a lever. I'd love to compare that keg of My Blueberry Nightmare to a bottle of Bordeaux but, with the Bordeaux, once you open the bottle the wine immediately starts to perish. With the keg, it's perfectly fine if you shave off a little taste. And, while I think your 1 max free taste is a bit too strict, I wish more customers had the thought process you do.
     
  8. Sweatshirt

    Sweatshirt Initiate (0) Jan 27, 2014 New Hampshire

    If they offer flights, zero samples is the max acceptable in my book. If they don't 1-2 over the entire visit. It bothers me when people ask for a taste when there are samplers available.
     
  9. NickTheGreat

    NickTheGreat Maven (1,470) Oct 28, 2010 Iowa
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    Jerks like that ruin it for everybody else. :rolling_eyes:
     
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  10. seth27

    seth27 Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2015 Pennsylvania

    For me I stick to one. If I don't like the sample I just get something I know I like.

    I think anymore than 1 or 2 and youre exploiting the system.
     
  11. Fox82791

    Fox82791 Initiate (0) Jun 20, 2014 New York

    I feel bad asking for more than two, but as expensive as craft beer is bars can't be mad when someone asks for a one ounce sample of something to see if they like it first
     
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  12. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    I see your point, but prep, etc. is involved with the beer as well (cleaning glasses, lines, etc. etc.)
    I have never really seen this happen (sampling for free before ordering). I have had a bartender hand me a taste of something and say try this (as a suggestion) as a look longingly at the beer list making a decision.
     
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  13. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    I agree, makes perfect sense.
     
  14. Hesscabob

    Hesscabob Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2014 Illinois

    I see nothing wrong with asking for a couple of free samples at a small time brewery that I am unfamiliar with their brew. I see the other side of I enjoy when my wife asks to taste a couple before diving into a beer since it's getting her exposed to more styles; if they limited samples at 1 the experience of visiting a brewery wouldn't be as fun.
     
  15. stickboy1125

    stickboy1125 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Virginia

    I never ask for a free sample, I may ask the bartenders opinion or a specific question about a beer and many times they offer a sample but I don't really see a problem asking for a sample (1-2 per visit, max) if the bar isn't busy. That being said, if the bar sells ~2 oz pours then don't be cheap, order a couple of those or a flight if you aren't sure what you want/like.
     
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  16. Ruds

    Ruds Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2008 England

    All down to common sense and how busy a venue is for me ...

    If I'm somewhere on a quiet afternoon I am more than comfortable asking for multiple samples, if the place is rammed then not so.

    However common sense evades plenty of beer drinkers (just like the public at large) so you will just have to put up with this unless the venue specifically states 'NO' or 'One' sample.
     
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  17. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    I think the OP meant a pub/bar. At a brewery is more reasonable, and it seems like the norm that samples are offered.
     
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  18. Hesscabob

    Hesscabob Initiate (0) Mar 16, 2014 Illinois

    Right, in that case I agree with sweatshirt., if flights are available, try them there. If not 1-2.
     
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  19. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    I rarely do more than one but at places where they know me the server and bartender may put together a flight of up to 6 beers they don't think I have had - there are benefits to sitting hunched over at a table scribbling in a small notebook. I try to return the favor by bringing in beers you can't get here from time to time for the server and/or bartender.
     
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  20. LittleDog

    LittleDog Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2014 Texas

    I won't accept samples. I've never had a beer that wasn't worth the price of admission -once. But people tell me I'm strange all the time for numerous reasons.
     
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