Schedule for IPAs

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  1. IPAphilic

    IPAphilic Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2010 Minnesota

    How long (in days) do people keep their IPAs in the:
    Primary / secondary / keg?
     
  2. IPAphilic

    IPAphilic Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2010 Minnesota

    Also, if you spend enough time in a secondary, what is the benefit of keeping/storing in a keg before drinking? Seems like some of the aroma/taste of dry hopping would disappear.
     
  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    My usual schedule:
    3 weeks primary
    3 weeks keg...which is your secondary
    dryhop in keg after 3 week primary, after 1 week in keg, move to refer.
     
  4. jmich24

    jmich24 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2010 Michigan

    My last DIPA: One week to 10 days in primary before 1st dry hop. Another week or so days before 2nd dry hop. Keg after three to four more days with another dry hop in the keg. Drink in 7-14 days.

    For IPAs i normally dryhop in primary after 7-10 days, skip the 2nd dry hop, but still add hops to keg after 7-14 days after the dry hop. I will drink in 7-14 days after that.

    Never use a secondary.
     
  5. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    I have two kegs of an IPA (well, an APA that I overshot on, OG 1.061...it was a pretty hoppy APA, so I'm just calling it an IPA) that I'll be serving at a party on Saturday. I brewed it one month ago. 20 days in primary, kegged 10 days ago with dry-hops and put on gas/chilled immediately (dry-hopped cold because I needed to turn it around and didn't brew early enough to dry hop warm, crash, and then carbonate with set-and-forget method). I pulled about a half a glass this afternoon, and it's just starting to get good. Carbonation getting to where it needs to be, flavors coming together, and definitely ready to serve this weekend. One keg had a white oak spiral in it for 8 days after I kegged, pulled the spiral a couple of days ago, and that batch is pretty excellent right now. The dry-hops are definitely muted, so I'm going to toss a bag with another ounce into each keg tomorrow evening...kegs will warm up for about 24 hours while I'm driving out of state to the party and getting them set up, so hopefully the aroma will pop a bit more.

    I probably would have let it spend another few days in primary and another few days dry-hopping at ferm temps had I brewed it early enough for this party. Or I could have let it go and then done the 30psi/shake force carb method, but I fucked that up last time and overcarbed my beer. So I opted for a week less in the 60s and a few days longer just sitting at the proper psi.

    TL;DR
    Normally:
    20 days give or take a few in primary
    4-5 days dry-hopping at ferm temps in the keg (no secondary)
    Crash, gas on for set and forget, leave the hops in the keg
    Start sampling in 5-6 days and start drinking with vigor once it's getting good

    In a rush:
    20 days give or take a few in primary
    Get it ready sooner by dry-hopping cold while it's carbing up
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
    Pooh-Bah

    I believe Vikeman has a little information on the matter. :slight_smile:
     
  7. Treb0R

    Treb0R Initiate (0) Dec 12, 2012 Oregon

    For me,

    16-21 days in the primary (including stage 1 dryhop)
    7-10 days in the secondary (including stage 2 dryhop, with cold crash & gelatin on the tail end)
    17-20 days in the bottle for carbing
    4-7 days in the refrigerator to let everything settle
     
  8. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Lower Gravity = fewer days ferementation?
    (assuming enough yeast, proper temp etc.)
     
  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Quite often, yes.
     
  10. IPAphilic

    IPAphilic Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2010 Minnesota

    Cold crashing and going straight to a keg seems quite popular for IPAs on this forum and others. But if the purpose is to clear things up and get proteins and yeast to settle out, why not do this in the primary prior to racking to keg? Otherwise it seems like it will all just sit at the bottom of the keg.
     
  11. JebediahScooter

    JebediahScooter Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2010 Vermont

    Yeah, trub will accumulate in the keg, but it largely gets sucked out in the first pint. After that, nice and clear. I guess I see it as trading a yeasty pint for the hassle of moving a fermenter from one location to another an extra time. I've also been using wy-1968 in a lot of brews lately, and it floccs like crazy so that I can rack pretty clearly into the keg to begin with.
     
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  12. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    If not on a tight schedule, I like cold crashing then fining in primary (PVPP and/or Biofine), then racking to a keg in a day or two. The beer is crystal clear going into the keg, and no crap at the bottom. Lately, since crunched for time, I'll cold crash in the keg, fine in the keg and serve, usually losing about a pint to crap/trub (I've had one or two take about four to five pints to clear), but the rest of the keg is clear.
     
  13. IPAphilic

    IPAphilic Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2010 Minnesota

    Also, if you Skip the secondary and dry hop in keg and leave the hops in, what is the timeframe that you should finish the keg? I would typically keep a 5g keg on tap for 3 or maybe even 4 weeks. I've heard dry hopping for extended times can lead to off flavors.
     
  14. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    Pretty variable person to person (Palette and systems). I found after 2+ months I start to pick up some grassiness, but pretty minimal. For dry hopping in the keg with whole hops, the flavor and aroma doesn't seem to hit its stride until at least 2 weeks in the keg (@ 38 F).
     
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  15. koopa

    koopa Initiate (0) Apr 20, 2008 New Jersey

    I've had good results with the following schedule for hop forward ipa's:
    primary 17 days total
    add 1st dry hopping to primary on day 4
    add 2nd dry hopping to primary on day 9
    cold crash primary on day 14
    keg and carbonate on day 17
    it starts tasting perfect somewhere btw day 24 and 31
     
  16. IPAphilic

    IPAphilic Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2010 Minnesota

    I have read that if you dry hop in the primary fermentor you lose a lot of the aromatic oils that contribute to aroma to the yeast cell membranes ( On the bottom in the yeast cake.)

    Is that bunk?
     
  17. barfdiggs

    barfdiggs Initiate (0) Mar 22, 2011 California

    You can lose some to the yeast cell membranes if you dont wait for the beer to clear. If you dry hop before fermentation is complete you can also lose some of the hop aromatics, but with the caveat that the yeast may biotransform some of the hop compounds in a way that creates less volatile aromatics and potentially more/unique hop flavors. Most breweries that add dry hops at the tail end of primary fermentation do a second dry hop after fermentation is complete, and once the beer has been cleared (cold crashing, fining, etc.).
     
  18. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    Usually a week or less in the primary then right to the keg +/- keg hops.
    Like JebediahScooter I use 1968 most times so it is finished and pretty clear by then.
     
  19. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Thats quick. I was thinking 14 days. 7 days then dryhop 7 then bottle.
    Using 1056
     
  20. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    Using 1056 you are probably right.
    edit: I dont use 1056 but I have heard it floccs much slower.
     
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