Schwarzbier and vanilla.....

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by USCMcG, Oct 10, 2012.

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  1. USCMcG

    USCMcG Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2009 Arizona

    I brewed a schwarzbier the other day and was thinking of adding some vanilla flavors. I would prefer to use whole beans, and thought I'd see if anyone had any recommendations.

    Obviously the brewing process is complete so it wouldn't be thrown in with the boil. Yeast has not yet been pitched.

    Thanks in advance
     
  2. JimmyTango

    JimmyTango Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 California


    ???

    Pitch that shit!
     
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  3. MMAJYK

    MMAJYK Initiate (0) Jun 26, 2007 Georgia

    You brewed the other day, but the yeast has not been pitched?

    I'd finish the beer in primary then add vanilla beans to the secondary (after your D-Rest) and age there til you get the vanilla where you want it. Then keg and lager.
     
  4. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Let me get this right, you brewed it days ago and you haven't pitched the yeast?
     
  5. USCMcG

    USCMcG Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2009 Arizona

    That is correct. I know this isn't "best practices" but what is the huge problem I am missing here?
     
  6. JimmyTango

    JimmyTango Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 California

    You are drastically upping the chances of an infection. Especially if it isn't refrigerated.
     
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  7. USCMcG

    USCMcG Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2009 Arizona

    It was brewed and syphoned to it's carboy and an airlock put on it. Due to temperature issues (I couldn't get the brew temp down past 90 with my immersion chiller ((I live in PHX)) and my freezer was coming up from storage temp at 32 degrees) I did not want to pitch yeast. The brew is currently sitting at about 52 degrees and ready for yeast.

    Thanks though for the concerns
     
  8. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    What Jimmy said. The longer you wait, the more likely infection will take hold. I just never heard of anyone waiting days to pitch. Why the wait?

    Beyond that, generally people add Vanilla beans to the secondary like MMAJYK said.
     
  9. USCMcG

    USCMcG Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2009 Arizona


    See above
     
  10. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    You should invest in a pond/fountain/sub pump, and combine that with ice water and your immersion chiller. I can get down to 50 in the middle of summer.
     
  11. Danielbt

    Danielbt Initiate (0) May 4, 2012 Texas

    Agreed, but as long as your sanitation procedures are sound, I wouldn't worry too much.

    Anyhow, as to your actual question, I'd split the beans and soak them in a small amount of clean-tasting vodka and then add all of it to the secondary for a couple weeks. 2-3 beans should be plenty.
     
  12. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Michigan water and air temps are a bit different than Phoenix, where my thermometer said it hit 99F today, hell Im lucky if my tap water is 85F

    To USCMcG, dont worry about waiting I do similar things often, although I will stick a carboy in a 32F freezer thats slowly coming up to temp, the extra cold will just help to reach pitching temps sooner

    As for the vanilla, I would wait till the beer is finished, I definitely think vanilla could work in a schwarzbier, but I love them too much to do that to a whole batch, especially with all the time and effort to ferment and lager. Why not just add a bit of vanilla extract to the glass??
     
  13. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    You are right. If I lived there I would have invested in a pump long before I did here.
     
  14. USCMcG

    USCMcG Initiate (0) Nov 20, 2009 Arizona

    Interesting suggestion. I too love the Schwarz and the vanilla idea just sort of came on as an after thought. Thanks for the advice.
     
  15. nozferatu46

    nozferatu46 Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2008 Indiana

    You completely missed his point. You use your warm 85 degree water to chill down to... 90ish. Then, you add ice to the vessel/sink you have the pump in to push water through your chiller. Ice is roughly the same temperature in Phoenix as it is in Michigan. You'll cool faster, and down to lager temps.
     
  16. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    yah but why when you have a cold freezer ready to go? pitching the next morning isnt really gonna hurt anything. Ive done this for years now
     
  17. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Source?
     
  18. nozferatu46

    nozferatu46 Initiate (0) Mar 24, 2008 Indiana

     
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