Schwarzbier - Dry yeast

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  1. primrose54

    primrose54 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2009 Ohio

    I want to brew the schwarzbier recipe out of Gordon's strong book Modern Homebrew Recipes. My homebrew shop currently doesn't have any liquid German lager yeast. The recipe in Gordan's book calls for Wyeast 2206 Barvarian Lager yeast. In your opinion what would be the best dry yeast for German lagers?
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I have limited experience using dry lager yeast (lots of experience using dry ale yeast).

    IMO the 'expert' here is Jim (@premierpro). I have had the pleasure of drinking several of his lagers brewed using a variety of dry lager yeast. All of those beers have been of very high quality. Hopefully he can provide his input here.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. Uprightfever

    Uprightfever Initiate (122) Apr 23, 2019 California

    34/70, "Weihenstephaner Strain" has never let me down in any lager I've done.
     
  4. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    For malty lagers I like S-189, if using dry (prefer liquid though). In fact, the only Schwarzbier I’ve brewed I ended up using S-189, and if I recall it turned out nice. Nothing wrong with 34/70, but not a lot of character, quite neutral flavor profile. Those are the only dry lager yeasts I’ve used.
     
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  5. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

  6. dmtaylor

    dmtaylor Savant (1,149) Dec 30, 2003 Wisconsin

    This matches my experience. S-189 makes a damn fine lager, and W-34/70 is a close second. Diamond is most likely from the same source as W-34/70.
     
  7. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    34/70 or S-189. Not sure I have a preference between the two. NOT S23.
     
  8. Prep8611

    Prep8611 Savant (1,208) Aug 22, 2014 New Jersey

    I made a really nice schwarzbier with S-189. Preferred it in a dark lager over 34/70.
     
  9. Granitebeard

    Granitebeard Zealot (549) Aug 24, 2016 Maine

    Going to be using Mangrove Jack's Bohemian for a schwarzbier in a few weeks. Currently ageing a Veinna and Dunkle that use it as well. I have no real preference over the other two mentioned.
     
  10. Silver_Is_Money

    Silver_Is_Money Devotee (337) Jun 4, 2017 Ohio

    I wonder if Mangrove Jacks M84 Bohemian is repackaged S-23?
     
  11. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I do not brew Schwarzbier but I do Brew Dunkels and Bohemian Dark Lagers. I do a split batch every time I brew them. Always with 34/70 and S-189. They both do a great job with these beers. I prefer the malty goodness I get from the 34/70 in my Dunkels and the S-189 in the Bohemian Dark lager. I also only pitch one pack per five gallon batch without re hydration. Take care!
     
  12. primrose54

    primrose54 Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2009 Ohio

    Thanks, everyone for the input!
     
  13. Yalc

    Yalc Zealot (501) Nov 5, 2011 Florida


    I too have only used 34/70 and S-189. I slightly prefer the S-189 but then again this was for Dunkel and I felt the malt shone better with the S-189.
    Cheers!
     
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