Seeking out Kuhnhenn's Fourth Dementia clone recipe

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by bgramer, Jul 29, 2013.

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  1. bgramer

    bgramer Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2006 Washington

    Has anyone attempted to clone Kuhnhenn's Fourth Dementia?

    BA: http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/2097/18850

    I just had this the other night and it was a fantastic beer. Definitely an inspiration and I'm interested in researching how this beer was brewed. I can see caramelized brown sugar being one ingredient. Really malty and notes of caramel, toffee, leather, dark fruits and a hint of spices.

    Possibles:
    - Caramelized brown sugar
    - Maris Otter
    - Special B
    - Munich
    - Crystal 45
    - Crystal 65
    - Chocolate Malt
    - Smoked Malt

    What are your thoughts?

    Cheers,
    BG
     
    #1 bgramer, Jul 29, 2013
  2. mattsander

    mattsander Initiate (0) Feb 3, 2010 Canada (AB)

    I don't think there is any sugar in the recipe for 4D, it is so luxuriously full bodied that it seems very much like an all-malt beer. I would also venture to guess that the crystal malts are lighter in color than Special B. I don't detect any smoked malts but they would definitely add a nice touch (like HOTD Adam's recipe). Good luck with your clone, 4th D is one of my favorites!
     
    #2 mattsander, Jul 29, 2013
  3. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    They often do long boils, so you might be getting the caramelization from that.
     
    #3 sarcastro, Jul 29, 2013
  4. atomeyes

    atomeyes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2011 Canada (ON)

    this is old and late to the game, but...
    marris otter
    barley
    special B
    c75
    maybe some munich.
    there's a sugary body to it but zero head. no dark malts other than the darkish ones mentioned.
    very light hop profile.
     
    #4 atomeyes, Apr 29, 2015
  5. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    I could be wrong but I think they have a clone kit at Brewing World. Sarcastro would know more about this then me.
     
    #5 premierpro, Apr 29, 2015
  6. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    I am not sure on that since I dont buy kits. They do have a lot of kits for Kuhnhenn beers, so it wouldnt surprise me.
     
    #6 sarcastro, Apr 29, 2015
  7. sarcastro

    sarcastro Savant (1,133) Sep 20, 2006 Michigan

    Just reached out and confirmed they do not have a kit. He said it would be too complex to do a kit.
     
    #7 sarcastro, Apr 29, 2015
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