Seltzer vice Malt Liquor

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  1. stevoj

    stevoj Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,248) Nov 22, 2011 Idaho
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    Ok, just want to hear what you have to say about this, if never heard of this before. I'm at my local brewery, and was kidding the owners about jumping on the seltzer train. So they told they are brewing a basic malt liquor and then add the flavoring. They don't add alcohol to it. They're still selling it as a "seltzer" though, for obvious reasons. But sounds like beer to me . It's 5% abv
     
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    HouseofWortship Pooh-Bah (2,735) May 3, 2016 Illinois
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    The infamous Seltzerweissen, scourge of the Reheinsgebot.
     
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    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Did they say "malt liquor" or "malt beverage" ? (They are - or, more specifically, they can be two different things.)

    According to the TTB:
     
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  4. stevoj

    stevoj Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,248) Nov 22, 2011 Idaho
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    They said malt liquor, definitely . I was thinking the same thing after I left about "malt beverages"....
     
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    stevoj Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,248) Nov 22, 2011 Idaho
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    And thank you!
     
  6. MrOH

    MrOH Grand Pooh-Bah (3,995) Jul 5, 2010 Virginia
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    I don't understand and don't care to.
     
  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, maybe they're just old. :grin:
    Black's Law Dictionary, p. 752, in the 19th century defined the term as follows:
    Even post-Repeal, many states' ABC laws were written with "malt liquor" as the general term (along with "vinous liquor" for wine and "spirituous liquors" for spirits).
    Note "can" - in general, all malt liquors are malt beverages but not all malt beverages are malt liquors. On top of which, there's the legal definition of "malt liquor" on the Federal Level (BAM):
    Which kinda says it's anything a brewer wants... so, nothing stopping a brewer using their malt liquor recipe to make a seltzer.
     
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  8. moodenba

    moodenba Pooh-Bah (2,502) Feb 2, 2015 New York
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    Right. It's flavored malt liquor . . . . It's flavored seltzer . . . . It doesn't matter. Either name, we're not going to drink it!
     
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