Separate bucket for sanitizer?

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by Ruger, Mar 7, 2015.

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  1. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    You need a 10 gallon brew kettle. With extract, you want to do full boils, if possible. Eventually you will go all grain.

    My all grain boil is 8.5 gallons for a 5.5-6gal batch.

    A 5 gallon kettle is too small.
     
  2. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Don't forget to clean every thing first, you can't sanitize a dirty surface.
     
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  3. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    You have more kegs than I have plastic. You win easily.
     
  4. Ruger

    Ruger Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2010 Kentucky

    I'm 22.5 years old... :wink: Born in 1992.
     
  5. Ruger

    Ruger Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2010 Kentucky


    Seriously a 10 gallon one?!?! I don't think I can afford that right off. All the beginner kits I've seen say 5 gallons plus a family member wants to get one anyways.
     
  6. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Good for you, you are legal.

    We dropped off NHC entries yesterday at the LHBS, for a club member to mule down to Zanesville. I stopped and looked at some kegs that were on sale (loose handles or racetrack lids), my wife just said "Jeff, step away from the kegs". An employee chuckled, and I said "If you only knew".
     
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  7. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Yes 5gal is too small. Unless you never intend to do all grain AND you will be forever happy diluting your beer after you brewed it.
     
  8. Ruger

    Ruger Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2010 Kentucky

    When the time comes to do all grain I'll be able to buy a bigger one. And give this one to a family member who wants it.
    Check my edit on previous post.
     
  9. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I have been full-boiling 5- (and sometimes 6-) gallon all-grain batches for 1 decade and have never owned a 10 gallon kettle. Typically, I split my boil between two kettles (one 5-gallon and one 7-gallon capacity), with one kettle on each of my range's power burners. As they boil down, I combine the contents into the 7-gallon kettle and continue boiling until I hit my target. I'm saying this just so people recognize there are other options.
     
  10. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Whether it be a bucket, carboy, or keg...eventually you will feel the need for a dedicated sanitizer container that can be dispensed into the other 2 options : ) ...probably.
     
  11. MCBanjoMike

    MCBanjoMike Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (QC)

    Ruger, rather than buying a second glass carboy, consider investing that money into getting a bigger kettle. A secondary carboy isn't something you need for most styles of beer, but a bigger kettle is always useful (especially if you're planning on getting a propane burner).
     
  12. Bonis

    Bonis Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2010 Ohio

    I should have clarified I wasn't talking "off flavor" in a sense of diacetyl, DMS, bacterial infection (though I've experienced a couple bad batches early on).. Basically I only brew IPAs and I want to taste as little of the yeast as possible. I seem to have found a way to achieve this by getting the beer off the yeast once the final gravity is reached (usually a week).

    The primary/secondary thing is a debate for another day. When I brew, it's either a week or 2 weeks (if a bigger beer) in primary and then 2-4 weeks in secondary. You do your way, I do mine. I was just pointing out that I have found it advantageous to secondary... it helps make a better beer in my experience. The only time I won't secondary is if I am too lazy...
     
  13. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    If that was some sneaky way to accuse me of being lazy, I accept!
    IPAs, with their heavy dryhopping, could be another exception for some, although I've taken to dryhopping at the end of primary. Additionally, the most common yeast for IPAs is not a great flocculator. You might try finings to get the yeast to drop faster.

    If you haven't read the Hops book by Stan Heironymus, there is an interesting section where he points to some recent research that suggests dryhop contact with active yeast develops certain desirable flavors. On the other hand, when yeast flocculate, hop resins can stick to the cell walls and get pulled out of the beer. The solution might be two dry hops, one near the end of primary, and one after the yeast drop (which you can encourage with finings).
    Two dry hops -- now call me lazy!:wink:
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I'm not sure if you're still talking about a secondary carboy here, but if so, you want a 5 (not 6.5) gallon carboy for 5 gallon batches. 6.5 gallon carboys are great for primary fermentation of 5 gallon batches, but for secondary, you should minimize the headspace. An exception would be if you are racking onto fruit or adding some other fermentables in the secondary, in which case some headspace is good.
     
  15. Lukass

    Lukass Pooh-Bah (2,891) Dec 16, 2012 Ohio
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  16. ipas-for-life

    ipas-for-life Savant (1,041) Feb 28, 2012 Virginia

    With the 5 gallon kettle you will either have to add top off water to get to 5 gallons in the fermenter or do smaller batches. I would go with the smaller batches. Plan on boiling off around a gallon per hour and you need some extra space because of boilovers. You want to have plenty of extra space in the kettle so you don't have to constantly watch for boilovers. That will turn something fun into a pain in the ass. Getting the larger kettle now will save you money and make brewing easier. A low end stainless steel 10 gallon is around $70. You can get alluminum for way cheaper just read up on preparing the kettle before using it if you go with aluminum. This is asuming you have a heat source that can get 6-7 gallons of wort to a boil in the first place.
     
  17. Ruger

    Ruger Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2010 Kentucky


    I'll consider this I'm definitely getting the propane burner.
     
  18. Ruger

    Ruger Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2010 Kentucky


    Got it 5 gallon carboy for secondary, for primary a 6.5 though?
     
  19. Ruger

    Ruger Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2010 Kentucky


    When I brewed with my uncle we just topped off the water and we did have a boil over (he tried adding something during the boil to raise the ABV I forget what it was), but I'll be doing this in the garage or on the backyard portion outside the basement on concrete I'm not concerned about a boilover making a mess of things.
     
  20. Ruger

    Ruger Initiate (0) Aug 15, 2010 Kentucky

    I'll look for this next time I'm at a Target.
     
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