September 2018 Cellar Reviews

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by Beersnake1, Sep 1, 2018.

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  1. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Poo-Bah (1,877) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Firestone 13 from 2009.

    Pours jet black with no head. Nose is incredible. Bourbon, cherries, licorice, maple, grapes, sweet candy. Taste is phenomenal. Burnt malts, chocolate, tons of black licorice, a touch of soy sauce, and some really deep dark fruit notes. This is incredibly smooth for a 9-year old barrel-aged stout. This ages so much better than most BA stouts. Mouthfeel is rich, creamy, and viscous. Overall, this is amazing. It's my oldest Anniversary Ale, but I have the rest up to now, so I will post those over time.

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  2. liquorpig

    liquorpig Zealot (588) Sep 6, 2008 Massachusetts

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    2016 Alesmith Speedway Stout - Vietnamese Coffee
    Wasn't sure whether to sit on this or not. Didn't want to miss out on the coffee flavor. Poured into a couple of goblets. Some sediment poured down the drain. Nice rich dark color with light brown head. Coffee flavor still present. Very nice sipper at 12%. Booze is well hidden. Flavor hits all the nice notes of a barrel aged stout. Would definitely seek out again
     
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  3. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Poo-Bah (1,877) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2012 Old Guardian from Stone. First, I am very sad that this isn't being brewed anymore. This has been one of my favorite beers for a long time, and it's always fun to age these. This is now 6 years old, and it's phenomenal. Nose is full of hops, toffee, citrus, pine, candy, and a bit of leather. Taste is amazing - this is really a perfect age for me. A mixture of hop bitterness and sweet toffee/candy. Some tree sap, pine, citrus peel. The bitter aftertaste lingers for a while. My oldest of this beer in my cellar is a 2004, which I will crack soon.

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  4. dlcarst

    dlcarst Initiate (88) Aug 21, 2015 Illinois

    It's really a shame they stopped this and Double Bastard. Those were prime aging candidates. My hope is they'll bring them back in 6 packs like they sort of did with IRS.
     
  5. BalancingBrooms

    BalancingBrooms Devotee (406) Aug 22, 2013 Louisiana

    Was sad to see this one go too. Was even sadder when Brooklyn Monster Ale was d/c’d. Wish I still had bottles of old guardian left after reading your review
     
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  6. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Poo-Bah (1,877) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2013 Mother of all Storms. Incredible aromas of caramel, bourbon, vanilla, and some dark fruit. Taste follows the nose nicely, with tons of caramel and bourbon. Malty sweetness, molasses, and dark fruit are also prominent. Overall, this has aged beautifully. At 5 years, this is doing great.

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  7. CoreyC

    CoreyC Initiate (193) Mar 16, 2015 Wisconsin

    This is one of my favorite beers. I've had it up to 4 years, but am not sure if longer is better on this, or how long to go. Was the five year better than fresher versions for you?
     
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  8. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Poo-Bah (1,877) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Me too. This beer is really fantastic to age. Better than fresh? I would say that it's quite different than fresh, and offers a different experience. Both are phenomenal. I have yet to open an aged bottle and a fresh bottle side-by-side, but that would be required before I can say which I like best. Sometimes the aging of beers is simply a consequence of having too many beers, so it's nice to know that this is NOT one that must be consumed immediately. When I see it, I grab as many as I can!
     
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  9. Superheatnsubcool

    Superheatnsubcool Aspirant (291) May 31, 2016 Washington

    2016 Lagunitas High West-ified

    Pours a very dark brown with a tan colored head that dissipates and leaves good lacing. Aromas of caramel, oak, winter spice, gingerbread. Taste follows the nose, with the addition of some black strap molasses and a tiny hint of pleasant oxidation, kind of reminiscent of Raisin Bran in the background. Mouthfeel is smooth and creamy, with a fleeting reminder of warmth on the finish from the abv.

    Still drinking very nicely. I enjoyed it a bit better when fresher, as the wonderful barrel character was more present and it has never come off as “hot.” I’ll probably finish most of what I have left by New Years, and maybe save one bottle for Winter 2019. You know, for science.

    BTW, if you want a good brunch beer cocktail, I like to mix some BBA or oatmeal stout with cold brew coffee, cream and sugar, a shot of bourbon and some cinnamon.
     
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  10. toolbrew

    toolbrew Zealot (571) Feb 26, 2008 Indiana
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    What are your ratios on said cocktail? You know, for science.
     
  11. Superheatnsubcool

    Superheatnsubcool Aspirant (291) May 31, 2016 Washington

    I’d generally say equal parts cold brew and stout. I started with the recipe below, and tweak it a little bit depending what ingredients I have on hand.

    https://www.bonappetit.com/recipe/dublin-iced-coffee
     
  12. kemoarps

    kemoarps Meyvn (1,256) Apr 30, 2008 Washington
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    'Saturdays in the Cellar' why not. Breaking out a Big Bad Baptist from 2014 (Release #34. SLC #1996. IBIS printed below that. Not sure what they all mean, but, you know, for science and posterity). I haven't had this fresh since probably around that same time, but according to my written review here, my impression was dominated by coffee, with elements of bourbon and ash also mentioned by name. I expect that the coffee will not be the dominant note any longer.
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    Pours oil black with a couple of soapy individual bubbles.. like a cup of coffee. Don't get nearly the coffee on the nose that I did fresh as it's more wood and ash at this point.
    Sipping at it the ash is still there, and there's still some acrid coffee to be found but not nearly as domineering as fresh, as expected. A fudgy chocolate takes over in middle third. Smoothe and too easy to drink.
    This is delicious.
    I do wonder if it would be even better with slightly less age, but I don't regret letting it sit for four years by any means.



    It's not unpossible that this may find its way into a sampling of superetc's dublin coffee recipe listed above...
     
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  13. AirBob

    AirBob Defender (629) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts

    BCBBW - Sept. 17, 2013
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    My last of the four pack.

    Muddy brown body with red hues and tons of floaties. Barely any head which dissipates almost immediately after pouring. Scant lacing.

    Aroma of tootsie roll, molasses, caramelized sugar, and raspberry perserves. Oxidation is minimal.

    Starts a bit sweet. Red fruit perserves, brown sugar. Tootsie roll and caramels in the middle. Finish is burnt sugar and chocolate. Some Sherry underlying.

    Minimal carbonation and very little heat.
     
  14. not2quick

    not2quick Aspirant (296) Dec 1, 2015 Missouri
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    I recently had an older Vietnamese speedway (1-1.5yrs) I was pleasantly surprised how well the coffee held up.
     
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  15. argock

    argock Poo-Bah (2,808) Dec 30, 2006 Virginia

    2013 Victory Old Horizontal Barleywine
    Best by Nov 22 2018 stamped on label — not the easiest to read
    Murky amber with minimal head
    Aroma has a bit of burnt caramel, alcohol heat, toffee, rum raisin, and dates and more oxidation character than I remember
    Flavor is a little thin and washed out in the malt dept with a little bit of astringency and mineral notes in the early palate and finish with sticky toffee and burnt caramel and light chocolate and tobacco notes in the finish as well. Medium bitterness.
    Feel is also a little thin with low carbonation.
    Not as good as other bottles of similar age I have had, seems like might have a bug or something given the thinness (although not very carbonated so may be wrong) and bland caramel notes compared to other previous bottles.
     
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  16. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Devotee (469) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2014(?) Anderson Valley Salted Caramel Bourbon Barrel Aged Porter

    3.94/5 rDev +4.8%
    look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

    I was given this by someone who moved across country and had to clear out her beer stocks. She's always been extremely generous and I've tried to reciprocate but, not that she cares, I'm in her debt. I don't know how old this is because I can't find any date on it; she texted me that she thinks it's 4-6 years old but that might be before it was available so if I screwed up the estimated date I was flying blind. Anyway it's a hot and humid night and I was looking for something somewhat refreshing and since this is 6% decided to crack this baby open.

    Poured into a DFH tulip it had a nice light tan head over a dark mahogany body. The smell was understated with the barrel tones coming through. The taste has more porter oomph to it underneath the barrel taste along with some understated bourbon, caramel and vanilla, particularly when it warms up. Perhaps the aging has muted the sweetness that I was expecting because this is in no way overly sweet. With no overwhelming alcohol burn this was the choice on a hot evening I was hoping it would be. The mouthfeel compliments everything else.
     
  17. argock

    argock Poo-Bah (2,808) Dec 30, 2006 Virginia

    2012 Stone IRS
    Really enjoyable cellared beer.
    Black with minimal head.
    Licorice is strong in the aroma with plenty of roast and medium and dark raisiny caramel malts too.
    The licorice notes fade with warming to leave a roasty, lightly sweet medium caramel imperial stout. Hop notes are faded but bitterness is medium.
    Feel is exceptional with smooth silky feel and low carbonation on a full but drinkable body.
    Really stellar and sad that this is my last one. Time to replenish!
     
  18. Bitterbill

    Bitterbill Poo-Bah (6,166) Sep 14, 2002 Wyoming
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    I'm so sad that finally, Stone is available in Wyoming and Stone Russian Imperial Stout has been retired. :slight_frown:
     
  19. riotontheroad

    riotontheroad Devotee (400) Apr 7, 2010 California
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    being my wifes favorite cellar beer, ive been buying every bottle i find.
     
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  20. TheGent

    TheGent Meyvn (1,342) Jun 29, 2010 New Jersey
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    That sounds good to me. Do you like it?
     
  21. Beer_Economicus

    Beer_Economicus Devotee (412) Apr 8, 2017 Indiana
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    I recently had my first. It was a top 5 beer for me. My wife enjoyed it and she never enjoys BWs. My first thought was to determine how to obtain more.

    FWIW.
     
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  22. AirBob

    AirBob Defender (629) Jul 15, 2014 Massachusetts

    I
    prefer it on the fresher side, but yes - well worth the wait.
     
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  23. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Poo-Bah (1,877) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    2012 Expedition Stout from Bell's. I have been holding on to this for a while, and it has been cellared at an ideal temperature. Served at cellar temp (around 55 degrees). Pours a beautiful black with a good amount of tan head. Looks amazing. Nose is screaming black licorice and smoke. A slight sweetness lingers - a touch of maple and molasses. Also some cherries in there. Taste is incredibly smooth and muted in bitterness compared to fresh. I absolutely love it. Nice roasted malts, brown sugar, tobacco, black licorice, and dark fruit. Very pleasant, with a creamy and viscous mouthfeel. Overall, this is a perfect beer to age.

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  24. toolbrew

    toolbrew Zealot (571) Feb 26, 2008 Indiana
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    Great to hear! I started buying a sixer each year to cellar and drink a mini vert each year until I can do six at a time to see how they age. This year will be 18/17/16.
     
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  25. Beersnake1

    Beersnake1 Poo-Bah (1,877) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Nice!
     
  26. argock

    argock Poo-Bah (2,808) Dec 30, 2006 Virginia

    2010 Great Divide Old Ruffian
    Bottled on Nov 23 2010 on corner of front label
    Cellared at 65F out of light
    2-finger beige head on mildly murky garnet body with some lacing. Amount of head makes me wonder about infection.
    Toffee, dark caramel, nougat, and caramel frosting in the aroma with the undercurrent of tobacco
    Flavor is not quite as decadent as the aroma with caramel and hop tannins, not much depth of maltiness, some newspaper and fudge in the finish
    Feel is also thin but tacky.
    I think some wild yeast or other has had some effect on this brew unfortunately. Has definitely lost a few steps on othe cellared bottles I have had.
     
  27. toolbrew

    toolbrew Zealot (571) Feb 26, 2008 Indiana
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    Bell’s Third Coast Old Ale - Packaged 4/6/2012 Batch 10942

    Split three ways into small snifters. Head quickly dissipated, clear brown color. Sweet and an excellent bitter notes (think esb bitterness level). Not as molassessy as I would've expected for being six years old. Overall super good!
     
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  28. CaptainHate

    CaptainHate Devotee (469) Apr 22, 2006 Ohio

    2017 Jackie O's Wood Ya Honey

    4.22/5 rDev +0.5%
    look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

    2017 12.7 oz bottle @ 13%

    Have been waiting for a crisp night for this. Happy Autumn!

    Poured into a DFH tulip. Dark brown body with a small light tan head. Smell of booze, barrel and vanilla; very pleasingly intense. Taste is nicely boozy sweet but not a honey like sweet. Also I'm not getting a malt or charred blast like I do in a stout, by design I'm sure, but it's refreshingly puzzling to my palate; maybe these Wheatwine Ales merit further exploration. Mouthfeel was pleasantly light and clean.

    Wasn't really aging this by design but it just happened that way. These bad boys are too expensive to buy in large quantities for cellaring, at least for me, but this tasted fairly balanced at a year or so. Not sure what further aging of this style would do but it's a moot point to me unless something highly unusual happens.
     
  29. argock

    argock Poo-Bah (2,808) Dec 30, 2006 Virginia

    2010 Straffe Hendrik Bruges Quadrupel Anno 1856
    Cellared at 65F out of light.
    Murky brown with short lived beige head and no lacing in a Chimay chalice.
    Aroma heavy with fig, date, and raisin. Surprisingly not much yeast character.
    Flavor is delicious with date, plum, rum raisin and light chocolate notes. Jammy berry flavors though the mid-palate and finish. Finish is also very malty with a bit of mineral. Alcohol is well hidden. Low bitterness.
    Feel is stellar with medium body with low-medium carbonation. Super smooth and drinkable.
    A very good quad although not very distinctive. Enjoyed it all the same.
     
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  30. argock

    argock Poo-Bah (2,808) Dec 30, 2006 Virginia

    2013 Bourbon County Barleywine
    17SEP13 on back label
    Murky chestnut with a small rim of beige head, some definite legs, and no lacing.
    Aroma is a bit muted with bourbon and barrel character, mainly vanilla, with some raisin and plummy dark maltiness layered on medium and burnt caramel.
    Flavor is decidedly not muted and carries big dark and burnt caramel without the sweet burn, raisin, fig, and date pop through all on the backdrop of mellow vanilla and sweet bourbon character. This beer has lost intensity from the fresh version, but that’s for the better as the fresh was hot and very sweet. There is a touch of tobacco and tannins in the finish.
    Feel is sumptuous with low carbonation and full body for sure. Very silky and easy to drink.
    A masterful BA barleywine with a dialed back intensity but dialed in flavor complexity after 5 years. Stellar.
     
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  31. argock

    argock Poo-Bah (2,808) Dec 30, 2006 Virginia

    2013 Founders Imperial Stout
    12/smudge/13 on bottle neck
    Pours black with short cap of brown head with some dots of lacing
    Strong coffee and dark chocolate aromas mixed with prune and medium caramel
    Like a liquid brownie with roast bite in the finish. Coffee is prominent, especially in the finish. Dark chocolate and dark fruit flavors along with satisfying toasty bite. Drinking extremely well — mellow but flavorful.
    Very smooth and full bodied without being syrupy.
    I’m not going to be sitting on these much longer - absolutely delicious and enjoyable.
     
  32. liquorpig

    liquorpig Zealot (588) Sep 6, 2008 Massachusetts




    I took your comments into consideration and popped open a 2016 release. I too have not had this fresh. Similar appearance to what you described. Coffee flavor is more prevalent that what you described. Coffee and chocolate meld together for a fantastic flavor. Not much ash. Very smooth to drink with little effervescence.
     
  33. Jacobier10

    Jacobier10 Poo-Bah (1,918) Feb 23, 2004 New Jersey
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    2014 Goose Island BCBBW. Bottled 9/18/2014. Celebrating back to back fantasy baseball championships with this one.

    Murky dark brown in color with deep ruby highlights. Zero head on the pour. Complex aroma of figs, raisins, port, vanilla and bourbon. Sweet flavor without being cloying or syrupy. Full bodied and warming. No sign of oxidation. The closest thing I've had to a port wine in beer form. Delicious.

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