Seriously BA, cellaring IPAs?

Talk Discussion in 'BeerAdvocate Talk' started by Hop-Droppen-Roll, Nov 12, 2013.

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  1. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    I've noticed that the BA pages for both Abrasive and Hopslam include the little aging window that indicates it 'can be cellared for long periods of time under the right conditions'... is this just a simple oversight? Is there someone I should bring this up to when I notice it? Is everything I've come to understand about IPAs false? Has the whole world gone mad?
     
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  2. Rekrule

    Rekrule Initiate (0) Nov 11, 2011 Massachusetts

    Cellaring doesn't make the majority of beers any better anyways. IPAs fit right into that mold.
     
  3. SaCkErZ9

    SaCkErZ9 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,057) Feb 27, 2005 South Carolina
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    Due to the higher alcohol content and higher hop usage, it can be stored for a period of time. Of course, it changes the beer completely, becoming a malt bomb, but you can cellar IPAs if you please.
     
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  4. theCoder

    theCoder Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2011 Minnesota

    I suppose you could age them, why not. Maybe I'd like Abrasive more cellared (idea now, gonna find me a single of Abrasive and throw it in the cellar).

    I cellar Double Crooked Tree from Dark Horse. It turns into a glorious barley wine with age, I have 4 years worth in my cellar atm and can['t wait to do a 5 year vertical. I love that beer fresh and cellared I also love it so really that's a win/win for me.
     
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  5. Stugotzo

    Stugotzo Initiate (0) Jun 13, 2012 Florida

    It's probably automatic text that appears whenever there's an ABV over 7.0%.

    But, with anything, taste is subjective.

    Personally, I only try to "cellar" beers that are over 8% and of the following styles: Belgian Strong Dark, Quads, Belgian Strong Pale, Dubbels, Stouts, Barleywines, Old Ales, etc. Nothing in the overly hoppy styles (IPAs, IIPAs, etc.)
     
  6. Danny1217

    Danny1217 Initiate (0) Jul 15, 2011 Florida

    If you age them, you can get those wonderful oxidized hop aromas and complex 2-row malt flavor.
     
  7. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Cellaring just changes the flavor of a beer. If you're interested in seeing what those changed flavors of a beer, ANY beer, are, then give it a cellaring.

    I don't cellar anything myself, but I can see why folks are interested in it. I had an eight year old bottle of Sierra Nevada Celebration that was excellent.
     
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  8. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    Define mad, I love old Hop slam. Of course I am not a fan of super pine tar IPA, or frankly any over hopped IPA.

    besides IF you believed the myth about IPA it takes a long voyage in a oak cask to be real IPA, lol.....:grinning:


    read hops and glory, by Pete.
     
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  9. sacrelicio

    sacrelicio Pooh-Bah (1,838) Feb 15, 2005 Minnesota
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    Hopslam agers drive me nuts. I've heard of people doing verticals.

    That said, if you stock up on a DIPA and can't drink it fast enough, it's ok to sit on some of them for a few months if they stay cold. The hops might lose some of their punch, but the beer will still be pretty good.
     
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  10. tozerm

    tozerm Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2005 Washington

    I'm glad that no one in America has been brainwashed by the big guys that beer is toxic poison after 90 days...:astonished:
     
  11. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Is there evidence to suggest this origin story is false?
     
  12. Hop-Droppen-Roll

    Hop-Droppen-Roll Initiate (0) Nov 5, 2013 Minnesota

    Just thinking in terms of flavor, since everyone seems to agree (until now, I guess) that IPAs are best fresh.
     
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  13. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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  14. tozerm

    tozerm Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2005 Washington

    True that fresh IPAs are very short lived in terms of that specific, hoppy flavor profile. But my point is that a different flavor due to some aging doesn't necessarily mean a bad flavor. I actually like to taste beers relatively fresh then revisit them again to see the affects of aging. C'mon.. who doesn't like cheddar cheese AND a good old aged cheddar!
     
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  15. mellowmark

    mellowmark Savant (1,018) Mar 31, 2010 Utah

    Then how would you explain the multitude of Lambics around 4% with the same messege?
     
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  16. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    I left him cheese! any one can leave cookies.....
     
  17. tozerm

    tozerm Initiate (0) Jul 1, 2005 Washington

    I think BA is bound to have a long thread soon about the benefits/damage of the new shotgun cans with "smooth flow".... good or bad for the beer to be agitated or not when pouring... you weigh in! :rolling_eyes:
     
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  18. Ranbot

    Ranbot Pooh-Bah (2,463) Nov 27, 2006 Pennsylvania
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    A bar in my town has Hopslam vintages for sale... I asked them why they would ever do that to a beer like Hopslam. They explained how the beer changes but they didn't convince me it was a good idea.
     
  19. creepinjeeper

    creepinjeeper Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2012 Missouri

    With a few trades and a beercation, I have more than a few IPA's/DIPA's that I can drink "fresh". You just answered my question. I did have a couple of Sucks, and Hopslam's that accidentally made their way to the back of the fridge. Five months later, they were all pretty tasty.
     
  20. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    drink faster....:grinning:
     
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