Session Wheat Ale recipe suggestions

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  1. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Crusader (433) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    I've brewed a Session Wheat Ale 3 times now that I have also added fruit to. I've used close to the same recipe each time but feel like I might want to switch things up this time. Here's the recipe I have been using:
    Pilsner 32%
    White Wheat 29%
    Flaked Wheat 20%
    Carahell 12%
    CaraCrystal Wheat 6%
    Acidulated 1% (for mash ph)
    Hops 1oz Tettnang 60 min (fruit being main flavor so bittering hops only)
    Wyeast 1010

    Mashed at 156- Dual batch sparged
    Brewhouse- 80-83%

    Fruited once with Blueberry, once with Raspberries, once with Blackberries. Raspberry had the most affect on the flavor giving it a little bit of a sour beer style to it.

    So what would you guys recommend changing up? Plan as of now is to split this batch into 3 one gallon fermentors after primary adding Strawberries to 1st, Orange Zest to 2nd, and nothing to the 3rd.
     
  2. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    Personally I would try a different yeast. A hefe yeast would really change this beer (for the better, in my view, but obviously it's a matter of taste). In that case I would try it without fruit, at least at first.

    If you like sour beers, you might consider dialing back the hops (or really, leaving them out altogether) and fermenting it with Lactobacillus and a neutral yeast (1010 would probably be fine actually, 1007 is also commonly used). In this case, fruit would probably complement the tartness nicely.
     
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  3. Supergenious

    Supergenious Maven (1,273) May 9, 2011 Michigan

    I like a Kolsch yeast for a wheat, fermented warm, around 65F. Another thing to consider is dry hopping. Can’t go wrong with a little Amarillo.
     
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  4. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Crusader (433) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    Not the biggest sour guy but do like some of them, typically with fruit in them. My brother has been asking me to make a sour so I may go that route on a future batch but going with normal for this one.

    Changing the yeast was one of things I was thinking of doing. Any specific kinds you prefer? Think I'm down to trying one of these Yeasts: WLP029, Wyeast German 1007, Wyeast Kolsch 2565, Wyeast Northwest 1332, or maybe Safale K-97. Pretty limited on White Labs options at LHBS as they just added them last summer.
     
  5. minderbender

    minderbender Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2009 New York

    I've never brewed a Kolsch, so I can't really comment on most of those yeasts. What I'll say is that they will probably provide fairly clean fermentations not that different from what you are already doing. But one of the joys of homebrewing is experimenting, so absolutely you should try them out and see what difference it makes.

    Personally I much prefer the character of a good hefeweizen, and so I would recommend trying Wyeast 3068. You might also play around with your malt bill a little to make it more like a traditional hefe recipe, but honestly I think it would work fine as is. A hefe is a very different beer, with tons of yeast character. It would be a much bigger change than shifting to a Kolsch yeast. A totally different beer really.
     
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  6. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    I just did this beer, not exactly the same grain bill but close, and I used Chimay yeast (WLP500 Monastery) and the yeast makes the beer. I didn't feel it needed anything else. Fantastic dark fruit notes! I also used a little bit of Amarillo in the whirlpool.

    However, I then dosed it with orange and cinnamon to make it a "winter wheat" and that's excellent as well but in the end I question whether I really needed that as it was just so simple and easy to drink as it was. Next time I'll split the batch. I like your idea of doing strawberries in one, that would have worked with the Chimay yeast as well.
     
  7. JohnnyChicago

    JohnnyChicago Initiate (0) Sep 3, 2010 Illinois

    I also like using Kölsch yeast for a little more character in American wheats.
    One of my favorite wheat recipes uses mostly pale ale malt, then a blend of red wheat malt, torrified wheat, and carawheat.
    Kölsch yeast and sorachi ace/montueka hops.

    Really tasty, unique beer with a ton of lemon/lime character.
     
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  8. Eggman20

    Eggman20 Crusader (433) Feb 14, 2017 Minnesota

    I like this idea and am going to try it on my next brew session after this. Might mix up some of the grain and will skip the fruit in it so it might end up being more of a true hefe but sticking with a low abv.

    This sounds like an awesome idea! Was considering some similar Wyeast styles. Would have to specially order WLP500 from LHBS but could do some Wyeast variants. I'll add 1214 to the list.

    Would you recommend red wheat over white? I tried 50/50 last time but couldn't really tell the difference though fruit may have covered some of that.


    Glad I posted this as you are giving me some great ideas. This recipe is cheap to make, tasty, and the bottles go fast so I may end up doing a few different versions of this. Thinking if I want to add fruit it might be best to go with Kolsch this time and go more drastic next couple times. I may up my CaraCrystal and reduce my Flaked Wheat and CaraHell a bit as well to get in the 10-15% range as Briess says it will add more sweetness and orange flavors:
    10-15% Mild sweetness and flavor plus orange tones
     
  9. NeroFiddled

    NeroFiddled Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,276) Jul 8, 2002 Pennsylvania
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    Two notes... my beer was all red wheat. It's a little more wheaty and rustic tasting but not by much - and keep in mind if you're milling, it's a lot harder than white wheat. I think it worked for what I was going for, and I called it "winter wheat" because that's what it is, but honestly, I really only used it because it was on hand and I needed to get rid of it.

    Second, although I love the Chimay yeast, it's a bitch to get it to drop out. I can cold crash it and hit it with Biofine Clear but it still sticks around. A cloudy wheat beer is OK but a yeasty looking beer is a tough sell so be prepared to wait it out if you choose to use it. Fortunately the yeast itself only adds a little bit of acidity and very little "yeast" flavor so I'm enjoying it right now but I don't think this batch will be ready for another two to three weeks if I want it to be partially clear.
     
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