Short's Brewing 2020

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  1. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If you look at Peaches in UT for the last dates of ratings, the info is confusing. Some bottles, can(?) and draft are listed since last fall, with the latest being in March. :thinking_face:
     
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  2. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Grand Pooh-Bah (3,380) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Further evidence that Untappd is unreliable.
     
    #122 JohnnyHopps, Apr 25, 2020
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  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I finally found this one today. It's interesting and a great beer! Best sour that I've had from Short's. Not quite what I expected because it isn't as close to a whiskey sour as what I thought it would be, but you can taste the characteristics of a whiskey sour in it. Maybe it's the character of the barrel that is too pronounced.
     
    #123 PapaGoose03, Apr 26, 2020
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  4. Zorak2

    Zorak2 Devotee (329) Nov 5, 2016 Michigan

    They need to add Wayne county.
     
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  5. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Grand Pooh-Bah (4,302) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Ok, I took a little time while watching TV tonight and sipping brew (Red's Rye has a MI only can release, very nice) and combed through as far back as I could of variety packs and limited releases.

    The following is a list of one-off limited releases, releases we haven't seen a few years, grocery chain releases, and variety pack brews that were here and gone.

    This is by no means exhaustive. There's probably some I've missed, and some that I've included we may want to take off if they've been recently released and I've forgotten. I know some of you guys will remember some others. I figure we can create brackets after we have a list of brews we want to include.

    The list is kind of in chronological order but not really. Sound off BAs!

    Sweep the Leg Johnny fka Aphasia
    Turtle Stout
    Mystery Stout
    Golden Rule
    Pistachio Cream Ale
    Black Licorice
    Rich's Rye IPA
    Bludgeon Yer Eye
    Key Lime
    Strawberry Short's Cake
    Ale La Reverend
    Bloody Beer
    Plum Rye Bock
    Good Samaritan
    Cup of Joe
    Wizard
    Pontius Road
    Pandemonium
    Aorta Ale
    Rye Not
    Uncle Steve's
    Prolonged Enjoyment
    Ginger in the Rye
    Anniversary Ale (Wheatwine)
    MMMKay
    Cerveza de Julie
    Peaches and Cream
    The Curl
    Village Reserve
    Beach/Snow Wheat
    Chatterbox
    Yosemite Scooter
    Bonafide Legit
    Publican Porter
    Empress Catherine
    Alien Einstein
    Cinnabilly
    Wowee Zowee
    Beard of Zeus
    White Falcon
    Lil Weezy
    Stellar Ale
    Dolly Dagger
    Carob Stout
    Captain Fantasy
    Kölsch 45
    Chocolate Wheat
    Double Magician
    Action Pants
    Totally Noche
    Totally Noche w/ Lime
    Citra Local's
    My Good Boy
    Neon Snowsuit
    Snozzleberry Griffin
    Lil Creepster
    Always on Vacation
    Most Excellent Stellar
    New Style
    Purest Form
    Obliviate
    Hot Loins
    It's About Thyme
    Bavarian Benchmark
    Speedcult Black Lager
    FLOAD
    Howlin Chinaski
    Zangief's Bearhug
    Peach Tea Mild
    Gary Juicy
    Cozy Blanket
    Peachy Pom Pom
    Keep It In Czech
    Pineapple Pilsner
    Michigantuan
    Exeter
    Kwikriek
    I Got 5 On It
    Slurm
    Ermagerdness
    Twist of Cain
    Twisted Cain
    Ester
    Bim Bam Boom
    Small Heath
    Vinatge Premium Lager
    Lemon Hop Stand
    Buckticutioner
    Ocho de Mayo
    Mr. Fusion
    Snake Juice
    Love Knife
    Swirl Stout
    Electric Mullet
    Earl of Brixom
    Queen Bee
    Bucktricity Kills
    Deacon Blues
    Moher Stout
    Counterculture Common
    Village Reserve
    Sustenance Black Ale
    Dr Zeus
    Happy Jack
    Black Chai
    Stellar Ale
    Stroker Ace
    Wit Happens
    Night Wheeler
    Alter Spalter
    Thirstie Mutilator fka Thirst Mutilator
    Raisin Apollo
    Chocolate Giddyup
    Celestial Critter
    Old Reliable
    Guess the Dry Hop Local's
    Blanco Suave
     
    #125 Tripel_Threat, Apr 26, 2020
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  6. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Grand Pooh-Bah (4,302) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    I just ordered some and sent it to my friend's house in Novi. Not ideal, but I couldn't pass up some Barrel Aged Moher, Rye Whiskey Bodacious, and the variety pack
     
    #126 Tripel_Threat, Apr 26, 2020
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  7. Zorak2

    Zorak2 Devotee (329) Nov 5, 2016 Michigan

    Funny story......

    I just did the same to my buddy's house in Wixom, but we forgot to run it by his wife beforehand and for some reason she did not approve after I submitted the order (hard to explain, but she crazy). I reached out to Short's to see if I can change the delivery address, but it was late on a Saturday so I dont expect a response for a day or two. I know the Short's people are good people (great reps down here and at the pub), so we should be able to get this sorted out, but I feel so bad for the inconvenience this may cause them.

    Unfortunately my next best address is literally on the other side (wayne county side) of 8 mile from Oakland County. Hopefully all works out for the best and remember to tip the deliver driver! :slight_smile:
     
    #127 Zorak2, Apr 26, 2020
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  8. Zorak2

    Zorak2 Devotee (329) Nov 5, 2016 Michigan

    Oh man what a list! I can taste it as I read it haha.

    I was literally starting mine tonight to share, but felt compelled to try and include the year rounders. I also wanted to exclude private stache and pub only brews due to their limited availability. I love the idea of limted releases only because the flagships will most likely prevail over the others. I think this may be the way to go.

    Also doesnt look like you missed any from the past 5-6 years. I really can't think any further back haha.

    Edit:
    Should Freedom of '78 be on there? It's an annual release, but limited. Also Cat grass? Noble Chaos?
     
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  9. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Grand Pooh-Bah (3,380) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    This is such a huge list, I am not sure how to respond. Should we start with drafting favorites we would like to see in the tournament. If so, how many?
     
    #129 JohnnyHopps, Apr 26, 2020
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  10. beerme_123

    beerme_123 Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2019 Michigan

    For Hoppy beers, I think the Batch 5000, 8000, and 10,000 should be included. I'd replace Slurm for Slurm Lord. Maybe Step into the Haze and Chief Hopper. Really don't know how to get it down 16. For hoppy beers, probably need it's own 64 beer tournament! For brown beers The Woodmaster and Good Humans are (or should be) considered for the top seeds. Maybe Joyous Almondo and London Fog for that catagory as well. Also Nicie needs to be included in the experimental side. I'll try to think of some more.
     
    #130 beerme_123, Apr 26, 2020
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  11. beerme_123

    beerme_123 Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2019 Michigan

    And yes, Freedom of '78 has to be on the list! My all time #1 Short's beer.
     
    #131 beerme_123, Apr 26, 2020
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  12. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Grand Pooh-Bah (4,302) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Freedom is one of my favorites, too, but it's regularly released every year, which is why I left it out of my list, along with a few others. Woodmaster for the same reason.

    I think the Batches would be a good inclusion. Since Slurm Lord was a seasonal just a year or so ago and has had a couple releases, and Slurm was released just once, I'd agree. I'd also put Step Into the Haze in there for selfish reasons - it's my favorite of the Short's "hazy" brews. I ignored a lot of the Hoppy Holidays brews because most of them got a couple releases in the last few years, either in six packs or appearing in multiple HH packs.

    Did Joyous Almondo get a bottle release?

    Maybe something to think about, too. Instead of creating style conferences, just dividing the brews two different conferences. That way it's more flexible if we want to include any number beers.

    Someone mentioned seeding by BA score, I think that's a good way to go.
     
    #132 Tripel_Threat, Apr 26, 2020
  13. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Grand Pooh-Bah (4,302) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    I think Chaos might be good for a spot, we haven't seen it in a while. Cat Grass and Freedom are awesome but we've regularly seen them the past few years.
     
    #133 Tripel_Threat, Apr 26, 2020
  14. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Maven (1,486) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
    Trader

    I can't remember a year that Strawberry Shorts Cake wasn't bottled.
     
    #134 Cotton_27, Apr 26, 2020
  15. beerme_123

    beerme_123 Initiate (0) Nov 6, 2019 Michigan

    Here's a few more that have been bottled in the last couple years:

    Autumn Ale
    Pure Michigan Autumn Ale
    Machu Beechu
    Mighty Shorse
    Devil's Lettuce
    A Tribe called Zest
    Smore Stout
    Treefer Madness
     
    #135 beerme_123, Apr 26, 2020
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  16. Cotton_27

    Cotton_27 Maven (1,486) Feb 22, 2013 Michigan
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    I'll add Kind Ale to the list as it's one of my favorite Shorts Brews.
     
    #136 Cotton_27, Apr 28, 2020
  17. Mikecd234

    Mikecd234 Zealot (595) Jun 24, 2015 Michigan

    Man, I loved tribe called zest, hope to see that one again
     
    #137 Mikecd234, Apr 28, 2020
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  18. JohnnyHopps

    JohnnyHopps Grand Pooh-Bah (3,380) Jun 15, 2010 Indiana
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    Plum Rye Bock sounds interesting, but I bet that is a beer we never see again since bocks are not a trendy style.
     
    #138 JohnnyHopps, Apr 28, 2020
  19. Zorak2

    Zorak2 Devotee (329) Nov 5, 2016 Michigan

    Its not likely, but bocks could come back to some extent. We have seen lagers come back the past two years and Blackrocks and Brew Detroit just released some delicious bocks.
     
    #139 Zorak2, Apr 29, 2020
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  20. Tripel_Threat

    Tripel_Threat Grand Pooh-Bah (4,302) Jun 29, 2014 Michigan
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    Speaking of brews we haven't seen in a minute, I just noticed that Space Rock was elevated back to the Flagship pantheon. Don't know when it happened and haven't seen any announcements, but here we are. I wonder if Juicy Brut hasn't been putting up the sales they hoped for.

    So if you see some Space Rock in your local shop, just make sure to check the bottle dates. We all know at least one place that'll put old stuff on the shelves when it gets a new release.

    IMO, flagship Pale Ale rankings:
    Pandemonium > Space Rock > Juicy Brut
     
    #140 Tripel_Threat, Apr 29, 2020
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