Should I drink it? Smokstacks from 2013...

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by grampajack, Nov 13, 2016.

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  1. grampajack

    grampajack Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2016

    I've got two bottles of Smokestack series from 2013. One is the "Grainstorm Black Rye IPA." It's best by date 3/9/2013. Alc. 7.7%.

    The other is the "Rye on Rye", also from 2013, best by date 2/11/2014. Alc. 12.0%

    Both were stored at room temperature on their sides the entire time. For the most part they were out of direct sunlight. I've been on a gluten free diet due to health issues for the last few years, so I wasn't able to drink them (they were a gift). But with the holidays approaching I thought I might indulge a bit.

    So....should I drink them? If so, what is the risk? If they've gone bad, will they just taste bad, or is there a possibility they could actually hurt me?

    ETA: thank you to the site staff for putting this in the right place!
     
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  2. Urohawk

    Urohawk Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2016 Kansas

    I have not cellared before (just started this weekend) but I found this on the rye on rye.

    Boulevard Rye on Rye

    • Attempts: 10+
    • Peak: Fresh
    • Drink Before: 1 Year; best fresh and doesn't turn into anything interesting.
    • Cellerable: Not Recommended
    Link to the tread is here.
    https://www.beeradvocate.com/commun...rs-to-cellar-or-not-their-sweet-spots.377684/

    FYI I just found a rye on rye here in KC which I was surprised you can still find since it was released in March. Rye-on-rye Sazerac is still available if you want to do a small vertical.

    As for RYE IPA, I would say the hops should have faded by now...could be interesting.
     
  3. grampajack

    grampajack Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2016

    So would you say it's safe to try it?
     
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  4. Urohawk

    Urohawk Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2016 Kansas

    As I said, I haven't cellared before. Just started doing research and made some purchases. It would certainly be safe. Worst thing to happen is they taste like garbage and you have to dump them. Probably wouldn't sit on them much longer but someone with experience around here may be better to comment.
     
  5. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    It won't harm you, worse thing is it won't taste good.

    If you are able to indulge again, treat yourself to something that is in prime drinking form.

    Cheers
     
  6. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    I recently opened a bottle of Grainstorm that I'd brought home and forgotten about. It wasn't great, but I didn't expect a 4 year old IPA to be enjoyable.

    We've had good luck with aged kegs/bottles of Rye-on-Rye. I find that the rye whiskey barrel character does tend to fade a bit, but they're still quite delicious.

    I would mention a couple of things for future reference:

    1) There's no know human pathogens that can survive in the environment that exists inside a bottle of beer. It's not possible to get food poisoning or "get sick" from old beer.

    2) We, and most breweries, suggest storing bottles upright if you're going to cellar beer.
     
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  7. grampajack

    grampajack Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2016

    So you work at Boulevard? You guys are my heroes! The Tank 7 and Doublewide IPA are my favorites, or at least they were before I had to give up gluten.

    Thanks for the info!
     
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  8. montman

    montman Maven (1,444) Mar 10, 2009 Virginia
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    Sort of coinincidentally, I had a rye-on-rye from 2014 last night. It was definitely still enjoyable however as stated above (and on the bottle) i remember liking it a bit better fresh. Drink it up & enjoy.
     
  9. Scott17Taylor

    Scott17Taylor Initiate (0) Oct 28, 2013 Iowa
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    Drink it!!! Even if some beers suck aged yo won't know until you try it.
     
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  10. coquet

    coquet Zealot (662) Aug 31, 2014 Virginia
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    Very unexpected departure from your usual "drink fresh" recommendation.

    As a KC native, I will always love me some Boulevard. Sitting on a few bottles of R-o-R myself, and looking forward to bottles of R-o-R-o-R this winter!
     
  11. JeremyDanner

    JeremyDanner Zealot (679) Dec 20, 2005 Missouri

    I definitely suggest enjoying our beer fresh, but since it's not possible to go back in time on this bottle so I wanted to offer some reassurance.
     
  12. grampajack

    grampajack Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2016

    Lol, if it were possible to go back in time, I would travel back before I developed the gluten allergy. I would pick up half a dozen bottles of Tank 7 and a few pizzas from Westport and just gorge myself on them.
     
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  13. RDMII

    RDMII Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2010 Georgia

    While the brewery does know the beer best, Rye on Rye can easily go several years without any off flavors or degradation from my experience. I've had four year old bottles that were still full of rye and whiskey heat. It's a great beer no matter how long it sits.
     
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  14. grampajack

    grampajack Initiate (0) Nov 13, 2016

    I opened the grainstorm last night, and it was fantastic. I've never had it before, so I don't have a fresh bottle to compare it to, but it tasted great. It wasn't quite as hoppy as I expected, so I don't know if that's because it's old or just how the beer is. It was extremely well balanced in any case, so no complaints from me.
     
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