Should I toss these grains?

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  1. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    So I had some grains crushed at a LHBS about....8 or 9 weeks ago. They have spent the entire time in a ziplock bag in the fridge. Basically things keep popping up and I haven't been able to use them. My question is are these still good if I use them within the next two weeks or should I dump them and buy some fresh ones?

    Thank.
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    The grains are still perfectly fine at 9 weeks. Pre-crushed grains last a long time. Below is what Briess states on their website:

    “STORAGE AND SHELF LIFE

    Store in a temperate, low humidity, pest free environment at temperatures of <90 ºF. Improperly stored malts are prone to loss of freshness and flavor. Whole kernel diastatic and preground malts are best when used within 6 months from date of manufacture. Whole kernel roasted malts may begin experiencing a slight flavor loss after 18 months.”

    Cheers!
     
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  3. VaTechHopHead

    VaTechHopHead Initiate (0) Jan 9, 2008

    Don't be intimidated by Bdubs OP, his favorite beer is Miller 64 + this stuff. Low calorie and great tasting he says.
     
  4. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    I'd toss them.
    Storing grain in the fridge...crushed or otherwise...is an extra bad idea.

    Cold causes mositure to condense.
    Mold ensues.
     
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  5. Boonedog

    Boonedog Initiate (0) Apr 10, 2013 Illinois

    Before tossing open up and take a look. Smell. Trust your instincts.
    No, they should not ever be stored in the fridge or freezer but I wouldn't just toss em.
     
  6. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Ditto on storing them in the fridge. You can minimize the damage by leaving them cold until immediately before using them. Otherwise, you'll get condensation as soon as they warm, resulting in stale grain almost instantly. (FYI, the same applies to coffee)
     
  7. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    OK thanks guys. It's for a partial mash so it's only like 2 or 3 pounds of grains....not worth risking an entire batch of beer over. I'll probably just get some new grains.
     
  8. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    A small maltster interviewed on either a Basic Brewing or Brewing with Beersmith podcast recently asserted that freshness makes a difference on this timescale. However, Briess claims a shelflife of 6 months when grains are stored cool and dry. If you had the freshest possible grains and did a side by side tasting with grains that were several weeks or months old, maybe someone could tell the difference, but I've made plenty of beers with grains that were several months old, even 6 months old, and enjoyed the beer.

    In this case, I think tossing them is reasonable, as storing in the fridge will create moisture problems. Fridges are cool, but not particularly dry. When I have excess grains, I store in my cellar, in a plastic pin to discourage small rodents, spiders, and the like.
     
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  9. HokiesandBeer

    HokiesandBeer Initiate (0) Jan 10, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Yeah this was just bad planning on my part. Usually I buy my grains a few days before I brew but things kept popping up and I kept putting off my brew date. From now on I think I'll be keeping them in a plastic bin as opposed to the fridge.
     
  10. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Sadly...no.

    Condensation occurs when moisture is cooled...not warmed.
    How else would you explain why clouds form?
     
  11. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    Moisture condenses on the cold grains when they are exposed to warm, more humid air (room temp). I misspoke when I said "you'll get condensation as soon as they warm". I should have said 'as soon as they hit the warm air'. Bottom line is, it's bad to store grains in the fridge.
     
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