Side Project Brewing, St. Louis, MO

Discussion in 'Midwest' started by JRorie, Aug 20, 2013.

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  1. JRorie

    JRorie Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2010 Illinois
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  2. jschonert

    jschonert Aspirant (202) Apr 4, 2011 Missouri
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    Shhhhhhhh...
     
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  3. jaminjohnson

    jaminjohnson Initiate (189) Jul 3, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    Damnit Jason!
     
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  4. ILOVESTOUTS

    ILOVESTOUTS Initiate (100) Apr 13, 2006 Connecticut
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    Would someone please BM me regarding this project. Thanks!
     
  5. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    does this even midwest?
     
  6. jschonert

    jschonert Aspirant (202) Apr 4, 2011 Missouri
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    No, it's nothing. It's a terrible joke. Nothing to see here....move along....
     
  7. jaminjohnson

    jaminjohnson Initiate (189) Jul 3, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    pre trade ISO 5x DDG or 2x ANN. Did I do that rite?
     
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  8. Tertullian007

    Tertullian007 Aspirant (296) Nov 4, 2012 Missouri
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  9. Tertullian007

    Tertullian007 Aspirant (296) Nov 4, 2012 Missouri
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    SideProject Brewing has had their first three labels approved and their release is set for Sept. 28th. Get the details here. http://sideprojectbrewing.com/
     
  10. Sludgeman

    Sludgeman Meyvn (1,406) Aug 17, 2012 District of Columbia
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    Sounds like the next time I go to Wichita I might have to fly into St. Louis and drive.
     
  11. phishbfm

    phishbfm Aspirant (287) Dec 4, 2010 North Carolina
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    I hate to be this guy...but as an out of towner who just read the press release...ISO!

    BM me if you'll by chance have any to spare, the 'Origin' and Brett descriptions made me happy in the pants area. Also, I'm really good about returning favors.
     
  12. Bay01

    Bay01 Aspirant (278) Nov 19, 2008 Illinois

    Let's just hope the Great Lakes region doesn't see this
     
  13. minnesotaryan

    minnesotaryan Initiate (0) Dec 27, 2010 Minnesota

    hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! peppering my angus.
     
  14. Arsenal0328

    Arsenal0328 Devotee (469) Dec 31, 2010 Missouri
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    I'm moving to St. Louis the 20th of September and the first release will definitely going to be on my list of things to do. I could bring some CCB goodness out if a bottle share happens.
     
  15. mdomask

    mdomask Aspirant (273) May 27, 2012 Illinois
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    Too late :wink:
     
  16. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Defender (618) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Argh, I'm in a wedding the 28th!
     
  17. Msulax4

    Msulax4 Initiate (68) Feb 19, 2013 Missouri
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    No, it's nothing. It's a terrible joke. Nothing to see here....move along....

    Exactly!
     
  18. jaminjohnson

    jaminjohnson Initiate (189) Jul 3, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    Intentionally? How so? The brewer started his own gypsy company on his own dime, I don't think he can go straight to having 1000 bottle count releases
     
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  19. jaminjohnson

    jaminjohnson Initiate (189) Jul 3, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    But I believe Cory also specified he wanted it to be small batches, and 100% barrel aged. I'd think he can only do so much on the side while still being a major part of perennial
     
  20. jaminjohnson

    jaminjohnson Initiate (189) Jul 3, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    Yes he is using their system. that system can produce alot
    Of beer. there is only so much room to store barrels there and only so much time in the day. Pretty sure he spends alot of time there brewing for perennial and then taking care of his own beers.
     
  21. jaminjohnson

    jaminjohnson Initiate (189) Jul 3, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    Also I imagine it is a lot easier to control the quality of the beers when doing smaller batches, especially when you are the only person involved
     
  22. Yulles

    Yulles Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2009 Minnesota
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    You understand that not every ounce went into bottles, right? There have been kegs of mornin delight at lots of events lately.
     
  23. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Defender (618) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    Lets also keep in mind that for the time being Cory is brewing his beers at Perennial and is still head brewer there. His majority of time is focused on Perennial, not SP. Not that the owners would care (they are awesome), but I personally wouldn't feel right taking up half their barrel room for my beers not under the Perennial name.

    I believe these may be factors in batch size
     
  24. TgBC

    TgBC Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2011 Iowa

    I probably shouldn't even post, but the making of MD does not allow for 10 bbls to be made on our 10 bbl brewhouse. It's actually less than half of that that is able to be packaged. By the time you fill up a bourbon barrel (for the barrel aged version), 53 gallons of that is gone, then bottle up the few hundred bottles we did and put the rest in kegs that are released throughout the year for special things... it disappears pretty quickly.
     
  25. dasmusik

    dasmusik Initiate (172) Oct 25, 2011 Minnesota
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    You can't seriously be saying that TG crew made a business decision to intentionally refuse to brew 2,700 bottles of MD that it could have sold easily at $10 a pop, and instead decided to impress a bunch of nerds sitting behind their computer screens and any perceived "trade value" by brewing only 300? Dude, TG could produce 3,000 bottles of MD a WEEK and there would still be demand for it. JFC. And as Mike just said, where do you think Kentucky Brunch comes from?

    I'm going to pretend you know what you are talking about and instead chalk these up as epic troll posts. Well done. Slow clap.
     
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  26. BottleCaps80

    BottleCaps80 Zealot (594) Jan 12, 2013 Iowa
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    You sure seem to know for a fact they keep it limited just to make it a rare whale, huh? Have you ever thought that it a very expensive beer for them to make? Also, I'm fairly certain it is intended to be a seasonal release. This was the first release of the beer to bottles. They also kegged some to serve on draft in the taproom and at festivals and other special events. They didn't make much of it their first go round. They have already said they will be brewing more for the next release of it. What about any of that means they only make the beer with the intent to keep it rare? You just come off sounding like a cry baby who is upset he didn't get a bottle and is pissed because in order to get one, you currently have to trade the world for it. Guess what...myself and thousands of other Iowans/Midwesterners didn't get to try it either. Hopefully we will be able to with the next release. Until then...get over it and quit making crazy assumptions about Toppling Goliath.

    Also....sorry to contribute to the derailing of this thread. Back on topic, I'm stoked to hear of this new brewery. Sounds awesome and hope to get to try some of the beers sooner than later!
     
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  27. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Defender (618) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    I wish we had stayed on the original subject: Side Project
     
  28. coryking

    coryking Initiate (153) Sep 21, 2008 Missouri
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    Debating on whether or not I should reply to this :wink:.
     
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  29. Yulles

    Yulles Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2009 Minnesota
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    Replying late at night is never a bad idea.
     
  30. cmdmzmjm

    cmdmzmjm Aspirant (237) Feb 5, 2012 Illinois
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    The problem with Ultra beer nerds is "they" don't like small batches because they might never get to tick it. They get upset and troll around forums and bash small breweries for not having millions of dollars to sink into a huge warehouse and brewery. Brewers like Cory don't have millions of dollars and employees that it takes to make huge amounts of bottles for the whole world to drink. You also have to remember this is a "side project". Im not saying Cory doesn't want to one day have his own brewery where he can pump out thousands of barrels of each beer but as for now I'm assuming he doesn't want that. This of course is my own opinion and maybe i'm completely wrong....

    I have talked to both Cory and Mike (toppling G) and i get the impression they are wanting Quality over Quantity as of right now. Actually TG is expanding pretty quick if you read their twitter page. They are wanting to keep up with demand. However, i don't believe they will ever put quantity over quality. Mike takes a lot of pride in his work with his beer from TG. (yes they are worth the hype :slight_smile: )

    Fact is, these two brewers IMO are the most down to earth guys you can meet. They care about the people drinking their beer and love that we all go crazy over it. That is why they pour their hearts into their beers. The best beers i have ever had have come from both of these guys. I think the ratings prove it.

    If Cory releases a small batch of 200 bottles and its the best beer ever, ill try to get one. If i don't.... ill wait for him to release another.

    If you all want the small batches to become bigger then SUPPORT them!

    Sorry for my rant... :slight_frown:
     
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  31. jaminjohnson

    jaminjohnson Initiate (189) Jul 3, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    You coming to the release CJ?
     
  32. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Defender (618) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    This pretty much sums it up
     
  33. Jeffh97

    Jeffh97 Aspirant (277) Jan 18, 2012 Missouri
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    Another fact that needs to be pointed out is just because you have a 10BBL system doesnt mean you can make a 10BBL 14.3% beer. I would estimate you would get 5BBL on a batch of that high of original gravity unless you double mash.
     
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  34. cmdmzmjm

    cmdmzmjm Aspirant (237) Feb 5, 2012 Illinois
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    Im hoping to make it. I have a son being born on Sept 3rd. Im gonna just go ahead and assume ill probably be broke or the wife wont let me out of the house by then.

    Hopefully someone will share a pour with me someday if i cant make it.
     
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  35. coryking

    coryking Initiate (153) Sep 21, 2008 Missouri
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    First, Mike, thank you for giving another brewer's perspective on all of this. All too often, because we have a brewhouse that is size X, everyone assumes that we must have X quantity of beer... We have the same issues with our huge beers, where our yields can drop down to close to 50% of what a smaller beer will yield..

    Second, I wanted to make a quick post just to make sure some of these statements in this thread do not grow and become rumors...

    "As far as I've heard so far these batches are intentionally being kept smaller than necessary."

    I have no idea where you heard this, but it couldn't more inaccurate. Side Project is just me, one person. For the Saison du Fermier bottling day, it took me close to 12 hours to bottle. Intentionally kept small - yes. Smaller than necessary - no.

    "the guy", thats me, "running Side Project said that he intended to keep all of his releases really small."

    At first, yes, my releases are going to be small. I am trying to grow into what I want to brew, what works, and what I can afford. I have no investors, no help, and little time at this point. Its going to be a growth period with speed bumps and road blocks, but the end goal is produce enough beer to support my family, yet not too much beer where I have to sacrifice quality or become overwhelmed with hours spent away from my family, just to meet a demand that will never be fulfilled. I have no immediate plans to distribute, so whats so wrong with small batches? The experimentation and workload right now makes me happy, and thats the important thing.

    Its truly an honor to see you guys talking about my beers and I thank you for all of the support. I am very excited about Side Project's first release and I hope that everyone likes what I have spent so much time trying to perfect.

    Cheers,

    Cory King
    Owner/Brewer
    Side Project Brewing
     
  36. JRorie

    JRorie Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2010 Illinois
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    Speaking out of turn, then doing it again, and again, sucks.
     
  37. JRorie

    JRorie Initiate (0) Oct 11, 2010 Illinois
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    Let's not do that.
     
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  38. beerepiphany

    beerepiphany Initiate (50) Oct 19, 2010 Illinois

    Any idea on price or bottle count? Planning on coming down from central IL.
     
  39. jaminjohnson

    jaminjohnson Initiate (189) Jul 3, 2012 Yukon (Canada)

    Origin is going to be $30 I believe and there is going to be less than 200 bottles
     
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  40. evilcatfish

    evilcatfish Defender (618) May 11, 2012 Missouri
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    I heard its all "infected" anyway...
     
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