Sneaky European can size!

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by unlikelyspiderperson, Mar 27, 2025.

  1. 2beerdogs

    2beerdogs Grand Pooh-Bah (5,682) Jan 31, 2005 California
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    I prefer my "pint" at 18 oz...just to make sure.
     
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  2. Fenski

    Fenski Pundit (791) Apr 24, 2008 Ohio
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    Did you roll those home instead of carrying them?
     
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  3. vinicole

    vinicole Grand Pooh-Bah (3,520) Feb 17, 2006 England
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    No. I meant litres.
     
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  4. Iggy88

    Iggy88 Grand Pooh-Bah (4,176) Dec 17, 2022 Ohio
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    lol. Good eye. Actually, they were in the recycling bin. I just "reinflated" them for the photo.
     
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  5. jmdrpi

    jmdrpi Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,989) Dec 11, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Interesting, the NHS website says "One unit equals 10ml or 8g of pure alcohol, which is around the amount of alcohol the average adult can process in an hour."

    In the United States, a "standard drink" contains 0.6 oz (17.7ml) or 14 grams.

    I remember way back in college during my TIPS training that they stated a US standard drink was what an average person's liver processed in an hour. But the UK number is significantly smaller. I looked up the CDC website, and they don't specifically say anything about the processed in a hour bit. https://www.cdc.gov/alcohol/standard-drink-sizes/index.html

    But doing a google search, the State of California says so: "The liver metabolizes alcohol at a very constant rate, approximately one drink per hour."

    Are American livers that much better ?
     
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  6. WhatANicePub

    WhatANicePub Zealot (712) Jul 1, 2009 Scotland

    The standard can in the UK is 440ml and has been since the 1960s. This equates to 16 old UK fluid ounces and at the time cans were becoming widespread was (according to legend) the biggest can the manufacturers could produce.

    Holy Goat make very interesting beer, I hope you enjoy it.
     
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  7. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    If my math is right that's about 8 standard US drinks. Not really an insane amount for one night (not a small amount either).

    The US has been trying to align more with one drink per day as the standard, which would line up with UK standards.

    Regarding how much one can process in an hour, I've never been able to find any solid research for how they arrived at 14 grams of alcohol being metabolized by the liver in one hour. If anyone can find it, I'd love to read it.
     
  8. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    I used to have a really nice breathalyzer that we had lots of fun with. It was consistent that I would reach 000 on that thing after 1 hour/drink. Tried lots of different alcohols.

    It was not consistent for everyone. My girlfriend at the time would spike higher per drink and also take slightly longer to get back to zero. I don't recall the exact rate for her but it was more like 70 minutes per drink
     
  9. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Seriously? I guess we'd have to define "one night," but for me I'd probably call it 5:00 to 9:00. MAYbe 10:00, so 8 standard drinks and I might just as well call the local constabulary for a ride home. And my cardiologist for a bump in my prescriptions. :grimacing:
     
  10. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    According to the internet (AI Overview):

    “AI Overview

    On average, the human liver metabolizes approximately 14 grams of pure ethanol (the amount in one standard drink) per hour.

    Here's a more detailed explanation:

    Standard Drink:

    A standard drink typically contains around 14 grams of pure ethanol.

    Metabolic Rate:

    The liver metabolizes alcohol at a relatively constant rate, meaning it can process roughly one standard drink per hour.

    Factors Affecting Metabolism:

    Several factors can influence how quickly alcohol is metabolized, including body weight, gender, and the presence of food in the stomach.

    Zero-Order Kinetics:

    Ethanol metabolism follows a zero-order kinetic process, meaning the liver processes alcohol at a constant rate, regardless of how much alcohol is present in the blood.

    Other Pathways:

    While the liver is the primary site for alcohol metabolism, some alcohol is also eliminated through urine, breath, and sweat.”

    Cheers!
     
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  11. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    2 liters of Oktoberfest beer is about 7 standard drinks...it can add up!

    An actual study for how this was established is what I was looking for. The AI overviews are convenient though for quick answers (although I've found them often incorrect since they're just randomly pulling information from the internet).
     
  12. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Something I haven't even thought of attempting in about 25 years.
     
  13. zotzot

    zotzot Grand Pooh-Bah (5,352) Feb 22, 2015 Vermont
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    Interesting discussion
     
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  14. slander

    slander Pooh-Bah (2,568) Nov 5, 2001 New York
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    this was my first thought...
     
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  15. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    How dare they print the volume right on the outside of the can like that
     
  16. BBThunderbolt

    BBThunderbolt Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,846) Sep 24, 2007 Kiribati
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    It goes to 11, dunnit?
     
  17. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    It needs to be labeled with a little cocktail flag that sticks up so that I know when I'm being ripped off!
     
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  18. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    You thought it was 16oz (473mL). It turned out to be 14.9oz (440mL), And you probably paid 93% the cost of a 16oz container of the same beer. You weren’t ripped off, you just bought slightly less beer for slightly less money. Not to mention, you found the beer “delightful.” File under “first world problems”
     
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  19. unlikelyspiderperson

    unlikelyspiderperson Grand Pooh-Bah (3,966) Mar 12, 2013 California
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    It was actually an expensive enough beer that it's probably a one and done for me. Although it was very tasty.

    And you could file this entire website under first world problems.
     
  20. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    "Someone disagreed with me on a beer forum!!!"

    "I don't know if I'll get a hot meal or shelter today."

    "Ok, you win."